Arguing over the war at this point is like trying to rearrange deck chairs on the Titanic. Its moot. Obama deserves credit for standing behind his position against the war but most democrats were for it. McCain deserves credit for standing behind the surge and it now seems that contrary to prior statements, Obama is now saying the surge not only worked but worked fabulously.
Ya think? :lol: Obama is all flash, blustery, little substance and little experience. McCain is dull, stale, looks awkward with lots of experience. Not the best two choices, I like neither but its safe to say I like Obama less.
I have not seen anything about Obama worth disliking. I don't generally agree with liberal economics so I have issues with some of his plans but that's not the same thing. I also don't think he has the experience for the job but he is not lacking in intelligence, and has conducted a pretty fair campaign. Politics tends to be an ugly game, and for the most part, both of these guys have been pretty honorable with each other. The flip side is McCain who I think has enough experience and tends to break with his party on some issues, but will that be enough? What does it matter if he bucks his party but things end in a stalemate? Each year in Washington seems to be worse than the year before. I just see a lot of people running in place and not much seems to get done.
You hit the nail on the head. Pelosi and gang would do everything in their considerable power to subvert McCain's efforts to move forward. McCain's message is "country first" and it's a good one but the current crop of Democrats motto is "party first".
I believe that, but did the republican dominated congress win any trophies for "country first" in the last 8 years? I like some of what they have done, and we can't blame everything in our lives on govt, but some of it just leaves me scratching my head. Growing the govt like they have done is at odds with the traditional message of conservatism. Maybe this election will force them to straighten up.
No, but that's irrelevant. McCain bucked his party at times over the past 8 years and now he wants to do it as President. That's the kind of "change" that excites me.
I'm not so sure. If congress is determined to look out for itself regardless of party, what can he do? I'm not advocating giving up but it is rather frustrating to watch this process. It's one of the reasons so many people choose not to be involved in politics. It's become some strange entity. I have not decided and usually prefer to hear the candidates debate a few times before I do, but the culture of Washington seems to be unshakable. Unless McCain spends the next four years being a whistle blower(he says he will), it won't change. It also means the average voter has to maintain interest and active, more than just once every four years. The majority of people that do that are the extremists. The average joe doesn't want to deal with it, so it doesn't really seem to change. It's a conundrum to me.
Well, you've got to start somewhere. I can't believe that 100% of Congress is that stubborn and maybe a few here and there will begin to change. Cue Steve Martin's What I Believe.
