McCain - Will Veto Any New Pork Bill

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  1. houtiger

    houtiger Founding Member

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    The line item veto was law for two years in the 90's, judged by the supreme court to be unconstitutional in 1998.

    http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1998/06/25/scotus.lineitem/
     
  2. Rex_B

    Rex_B Geaux Time

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    That is a pretty easy solution. If only the sheep would follow course..
     
  3. Rex_B

    Rex_B Geaux Time

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    I never thought you of all people would have such a fallacy argument.
     
  4. mobius481

    mobius481 Registered Member

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    I didn't say "easy" solutions, I said "real" solutions. Big difference.

    An Easy solution to crime is that everyone should stop breaking the law. That does about as much as "stop voting for idiots"
     
  5. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    It's not a fallacy. Take it from someone who has voted for third-party candidates and marginal candidates before. When it's over I felt like I wasted my vote.

    Once the primaries have winnowed the candidates down to two, with a scattering of marginal candidates on the ballot, it's important to affect the election by voting for one of them. Else, you are effectively not voting. Sometimes its important to vote against someone, even if you don't love your choice much. Ralph Nader's token campaign in 2000 took enough votes away from the Democrats to put George Bush in the White House!

    Token votes to register your desire for a better party just don't measure up to much in the real world. It's going to take a grass-roots effort between elections to get a third-party candidate through the primaries with a credible support base. Then is when it is effective to vote for them.
     
  6. Rex_B

    Rex_B Geaux Time

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    It's real. Just stop being a part of the sheep:

     
  7. Rex_B

    Rex_B Geaux Time

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    Well I don't agree with your opinion.


    When I vote for 3rd party I feel like at least I am part of the group trying to change American for the better not the worst.
     
  8. LSUDeek

    LSUDeek All That She Wants...

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    Ron Paul is missing the foreign policy experience necessary to perform as a leader of the free world.


    However, recall that Ross Perot recieved nearly 19% of the popular vote in 1992. It could happen.
     
  9. mobius481

    mobius481 Registered Member

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    Who would win in a fight between a sheep and an ostrich? I'll have to google that.
     
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  10. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Well, you want to feel good. I want to feel effective.
     

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