McCain picks a woman

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  1. TheDude

    TheDude I'm calmer than you.

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    You answer one point and ignore all the others. Of course, because you can't admit you were wrong. I acknowledged that poll numbers would fluctuate after the dem convention. They will fluctuate again after the rep convention and several more times through the end of the election. Big deal. Obama is still losing votes and you can't deny it. Your only defense is that it doesn't matter. You also can't prove your assertion that the repubs are losing votes to the dems.

    Keep telling yourself that.
     
  2. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    That one point refuted your unsubstantiated claim. The others were simple comments that didn't require answering. So sue me. I'll comment on whatever I want to.

    If it ever happens, I'll let you know.

    Quit trying to tell me what I can or can't deny, especially when you make claims not based on evidence. You see one poll and project it to the election and draw invalid conclusions from it by failing to see that there is no established trend.

    Why don't you just try to prove your own comments instead of imagining what I can prove or can't prove. But if you insist, here are today's numbers, just to prove you wrong.

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    Guess what, the Republicans are losing to the dems again, as I predicted. There is no trend, opinions still fluctuate. Next week there will be new numbers.
     
  3. Bengal Buddy

    Bengal Buddy Founding Member

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    The following is based on the averages of 6 polls: The Gallup Tracking, the Rassmusen, the CNN, the USA Today/Gallup, the Hotline FD, and the ABC News/Washington Post polls.

    On the first day of the Democratic convention, Obama had a 1.7 percentage lead in the polls. On the last day of the convention he had a 3.9 percentage lead - a 2.2 bump. Half the bump normally seen after a convention. Today he has a 3.3 percentage lead. Down 1.6 percentage points.
     
  4. houtiger

    houtiger Founding Member

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    I'm not impressed with the flip floppin lady.
    http://www.adn.com/sarahpalin/story/511471.html

    Has no international experience, and never submitted herself to the american public to see if we think she has the stuff to be president in case she is needed to step in.
     
  5. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    Her position is that they will build the bridge themselves without the welfare check from the Feds. Difficult concept for you libs to grasp, I'm sure.
     
  6. houtiger

    houtiger Founding Member

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    Wrong.

    http://www.adn.com/sarahpalin/story/511471.html

    If you are quoting her position, then you better stop listening to her, she's lying. Alaska kept every dime of federal money they possibly could keep!

    And her own republicans in Alaska and businessmen who ran her campaign are angry at her. She is ambitious and will toss her own under the bus to advance her own national aspirations, looks like to me.

    Looks like another pick in the Dan Quayle vein to me. Bush I went with an unknown, it didn't work out too well for him. His lack of judgment in selecting his running mate didn't cost him the 88 election, but it hurt him in the 92 election, along with his mismanagement of the economy.

    I found this from England, not a dem source. Yea, she's really experienced...
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/ne...ns/article4641030.ece#cid=OTC-RSS&attr=797093

    She doesn't sound ready to be pres to me.
     
  7. TheDude

    TheDude I'm calmer than you.

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    Unsubstantiated? Really? I claimed that 22-28% of Hillary women were polled as voting for McCain and that the number would change after the democratic convention. Poll numbers that you provided in another thread. I disputed that naming Palin would lose those votes, and disputed your claim that Obama is garnering repub votes. The new link you provided had this to say about those Hillary women voters:

    Try looking above. Everyone else sees it, even though you can't.
    I have done no such thing. The numbers I quoted were from a series of polls you posted before the convention. The numbers are facts and are a result of pissed Hillary voters. There numbers will go up and down, but the reason for their unhappiness has been made clear by plenty of delegates. Pointing out they will fluctuate does not disprove their existence.

    And you can deny whatever you want. You just look foolish denying facts. Especially when you originally provided them.

    How did you prove me wrong? I didn't say McCain was leading. I said McCain was not losing republican votes to Obama, and that Obama was losing some Hillary votes to McCain. You poll does not disprove that at all.

    Your disdain for the republicans is laughable. I can't say that I enjoy everything they stand for myself either, but how do you provide facts and then seek to dispute them in the same breath?

    Hillary voters are not choosing McCain as some random anomaly. Yes, the numbers will fluctuate. I have acknowledged this several times. Big deal. You try to use this as evidence that there is no trend. Try reading your poll again. Their is a trend and it will be up to Obama to break it or he could very well lose. Ignore it if you like, but Obama isn't.

    As to fluctuating numbers, Obama has already lost his bounce according to CNN, and the repubs have not even started their convention.
     
  8. TigerBill661

    TigerBill661 Life is Good

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  9. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    Forget about that trash her enemies are spewing, this is what is going to make me a Hussein supporter.
    :eek:
     
  10. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Uhhh, it was a joke, Dude. :grin: And you don't speak for "everyone", you know. Suggestions that your notions are supported by "everyone" are unfounded.

    Attempts to discredit your opponent rather than making your point are poor debate tactics.

    It's not about me, despite this obvious smokescreen. National disdain for the republicans is laughably widespread.
     

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