Louisiana Senate approves smoking ban in Bars and Casinos

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  1. uscvball

    uscvball Founding Member

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    Yes, out here as well.

    Won't do much to eliminate the brushfires but it apparently significantly reduces the number of accidental in-home deaths from smoldering cigarettes.
     
    uscvball, May 29, 2009
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  2. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    most cars are made now with no ash trays. not an excuse but it would help.
     
    LaSalleAve, May 29, 2009
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  3. tirk

    tirk im the lyrical jessie james

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    theres nothing to wait and see. it restricts the rights of owners which is all you need to know because it limits consumer choices. whether the establishment sells cigarettes has nothing to do with it.

    its LIMITING the private owner which LIMITS the free market and hinders business (to what extent is irrelevant) which is most always bad for everyone involved--except the government.

    of course it does.

    "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin "
     
    tirk, May 29, 2009
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  4. KyleK

    KyleK Who, me? Staff Member

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    Tirk and Nutriaitch have it right. I, too, am a nonsmoker. However, if I make the investment to open a bar or restaurant, it should be my choice. Strangely enough, I am seriously considering opening a Jambalaya Shoppe type restaurant here. It would be nonsmoking. But that is my choice, not the government's.

    To say that the government needs to control all that is bad for us is ludicrous. Booze is bad, cigs are bad, but they are legal products!

    UV rays are bad. Should the govt. force us to dress like Iranian women if we go outside? Should they ban windows that let those ferocious rays inside our businesses and homes? What about skylights? Better ban those and tanning beds too. Ban all short sleeve shirts, short pants, bikinis, etc. Can't be getting skin cancer.

    I sure hope they never do a study that says the color beige produces eye strain. I'll never be able to use that color when I paint someone's home.

    I am pretty sure that staring at this monitor gives me eyestrain. Should I stop staring or have the govt. force the monitor makers to make a non eyestrain version?

    Where does it stop?!!

    You people arguing for the ban are really saying that you want the govt to limit my rights to fit your liking.

    Keep up the conversions Tirk! VBall, it takes guts to admit you were wrong, but I'm glad you saw the light!
     
    KyleK, May 29, 2009
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  5. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    so kylek should marijuana be legal?
     
    LaSalleAve, May 29, 2009
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  6. KyleK

    KyleK Who, me? Staff Member

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    That has absolutely nothing to do with this thread, but yes it should.
     
    KyleK, May 29, 2009
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  7. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    actually it has as much relevance to this thread as everything you posted.
     
    LaSalleAve, May 29, 2009
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  8. LSUMASTERMIND

    LSUMASTERMIND Founding Member

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    I dont smoke it, but good answer.
    I dont smoke cigarettes, but i think it should be up to the bar owner. I hate cigarette smoke, but id love to light up a nice maximus after a ribeye at my table.
     
    LSUMASTERMIND, May 29, 2009
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  9. TwistedTiger

    TwistedTiger Founding Member

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    You're missing the point completely, you should be able to kill yourself any way you choose. However you should not be allowed to take those around you with you. Maybe we should legalize drunk driving since having the government tell you you can't drive drunk and kill other people is restricting your rights. Or maybe letting people consume alcohol but in a way where the people around them are not harmed is a better idea. I support 100% a persons right to smoke and have many friends that do. What I have a problem with is the arrogant stance many smokers take that they smoke and you are just going to have to suck smoke with them.
     
    TwistedTiger, May 29, 2009
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  10. KyleK

    KyleK Who, me? Staff Member

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    Nobody is forcing you to be around smokers.
     
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