Louisiana/Federal government Conference Calls made public.

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  1. LSUsupaFan

    LSUsupaFan Founding Member

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    For the third time, NPR did not provide commentary. They put 14 hours of pre and post Katrina Conference Calls on their website. They did not opine on the content.

    What the hell are you talking about? The evacuation procedures were followd to a T, and th city and low lying areas was evacuated in 50 hours. That is 22 hours less than the evacuation is planned to take. The evacuation was a miracle. I don't know why you keep saying the evacuation plans weren't followed. Are you making that up?


    Yeah there wasn't much rescuing going on. Except for the 20,000 people pulled off rooves the morning after the storm, and the 50,000 pulled from rooves in the days after.

    Yes I am VERY happy that a certified horse judge with absolutely no experiance in disaster relief is no longer the head of FEMA. To me, you should at least be first aide certified to head FEMA. Maybe horse judging is similar to disaster relief. I don't know.
     
  2. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Of course, NPR is a national radio broadcast and has focused on matters of national interest. Local channels and papers have been more critical of state and local officials. Nevertheless:

    NPR NEWS EXPLORES HOW HURRICANE KATRINA PLANNING TRAGICALLY WENT AWRY

    How New Orleans' Evacuation Plan Fell Apart

    Roundtable: Katrina Response, Nagin's Legacy
     
  3. Sourdoughman

    Sourdoughman TigerFan of LSU and the Tigerman

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    1) For the third time ok, if the information is correct fine.

    2) Am I making stuff up, followed to a "T"?
    If we are going down that road our conversation is o*v*e*r and d*o*n*e*
    I don't make Sh!t up!

    http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/front/3344347

    The Real truth, is this what NO evacuation plans call for?
    http://delong.typepad.com/sdj/2005/09/new_orleanss_hu.html

    http://www.dailygamecock.com/media/...ey.Went.To.Causeway.Bridge.Study-989336.shtml
    New Orleans evacuation money went to causeway bridge study

    Even the Red Cross at their website said this:
    The original plan was to evacuate all the residents of New Orleans to safe places outside the city. With the hurricane bearing down, the city government decided to open a shelter of last resort in the Superdome downtown. We applaud this decision and believe it saved a significant number of lives.

    Was the origional evacuation plan done or not?
     
  4. Sourdoughman

    Sourdoughman TigerFan of LSU and the Tigerman

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    Heres your NPR, was the evacuation procedures followed to a "T"?

    Through extensive interviews, Zwerdling and Sullivan report that by the Friday morning
    preceding the hurricane, public officials in the New Orleans area knew that they might be facing a catastrophic storm. In turn, they had plans prepared for providing food, water, shelter and security to evacuees; for assuring communications between all branches of government, and to enlist the on-site help of National Guard units from around the nation.

    As NPR News details, however, these plans fell far short of what was necessary - a combination of incomplete preparation, bureaucratic bungling and indecision.
    http://www.npr.org/about/press/050909.katrina.html

    Red provided some links with interesting information but I took it through a filter like
    I do "all" news.
    NPR is Liberal and most understand that!
    Thank You for the links

    So I don't guess anyone objected to the information I posted from the Red Cross or
    the article about the O'Reily Factor not to mention the interview with Major Garrett
    on Hugh Hewitt's show.
    That newspaper article of yours is wrong, in the beginning Red.
    Has to be!
     
  5. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    You have a "Misunderstand" filter? That explains a lot! :yelwink2:

    Well, if you are going dismiss reporting from NPR as liberal bias, then I am allowed to dismiss O'Reilly for conservative bias. :grin:

    It wouldn't be the first time that sources in a single agency give different accounts. But I will go with your article from the Red Cross. It clearly points out that the ARC does not do emergency rescues and were informed that the city was unsafe for unarmed personnel and that people were being evacuated. So Red Cross set up 90 emergency centers in safe areas to receive them.

    The people in charge made a good call. Red Cross got their instructions and is happy with the effort. It made a whole lot more sense to get the people to the safe shelters than to try to establish Red Cross shelters in the dangerous mess in New Orleans. The Red Cross was not prevented from going into safe areas on the north shore and in Mississippi/Alabama.

    I still don't understand why you object. Nobody else, including the Red Cross is making this case. Stopping the Red Cross from trying to get in to New Orleans and setting them up to recieve evacuees elsewhere was a sound emergency decision. New Orleans was a special circumstance due to the flooding and regular Red Cross procedure would have interferred with the evacuation effort.
     
  6. Sourdoughman

    Sourdoughman TigerFan of LSU and the Tigerman

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    Yes, O'Reilly is conservative and I do receive my news through a filter even
    Fox News but you can't dismiss the interview where American Red Cross president Marsha "Marty" Evans repeated the reason the Red Cross did not go into New Orleans that is published on their official website. She claimed that Louisiana's State Homeland Security Department refused to allow the Red Cross into New Orleans because LA-DHS felt that the presence of the Red Cross "would keep people from evacuating and encourage others to come into the city."

    Yes, it was probably a good idea for the Red Cross not to go into New Orleans
    because the city wasn't secure.
    I wonder why that was?

    I was objecting because all those people trapped in NO was wondering where
    the food and water was.
    1) State and local governments failed to secure the city and provide food and
    water for the people.
    2) The Red Cross wasn't allowed to enter the city because according to the
    La Dept of Homeland Security, they didn't want the people to stay in the city, if given food and water the people wouldn't want to leave.
    The people had no way to get out of the city also.
    Yes, security issues were a concern and all of this could've been avoided
    if the governor would've had adequate forces to handle the situation.

    Alot of problems could've been avoided if the city was secure?
    Correct?
    Who was responsible for security, securing the city of NO?
     

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