Looks like the troops are getting tired of Rumsfeld's $h!t.

Duh. Unfortunately the answer to this is very obvious, no.


As for the stuff you hear on the radio though, certainly it must be true! :thumb:

 

Sorry, but you are mis-informed if you think this.
Its been in the works for over a year to supply the troops with the armor they need on jeeps and such the problem is that it takes time to do this.
Its not a problem that can be fixed in a blink of an eye, it takes time to order
the steel, ship it and get everything installed.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/text/2001912771_humvees26.html
At the same time, factories are boosting production of the armored version. The Senate passed a supplementary $239.3 million bill in November to produce 1,065 armored vehicles at a cost of $150,000 apiece, compared with about half that for a soft-skin.

This war is no different than WWI, WWII, Vietnam, Korea, etc.
The troops always have to improvise during the time of war because war is
something you adapt to not plan for everything.

You could always give a no bid contract to get this type of thing done faster but then we know what happens then don't we.
This goes to show you don't know whats going on, should get educated. :thumb:

 

Real good answer there.

Do you have a problem with the media making news of their own, setting out their own agenda instead of reporting the news as it happens?
I guess not, that is the real story here and the only story.
End of story...

Do you disagree with the notion that when it comes to the media and their
reporting its slanted in a democrat or republican direction?

How about college professors?

Instead of keeping me guessing, why don't you tell me where you stand.
From the tone of things I take it you were a Kerry supporter.
Please, lets be civil about things and not childish. :thumb: :usaflagwa

 

You sound like these issues need not be mentioned to the 50% of the Americans that oppose the war. Did you see the pictures of the prison scandal? Even know these prisoners are animals, the pictures were sick. I think it all unfolded as three people (2 men and a woman) who did wrong. No one blamed Bush for that. Only a fool would blame Bush when everyone knows Bush wouldn't set one foot near Cuba.

Body counts, are you for real? Why shouldn't we know what the body count is? You sound like you block these things out and go along w/your merry day. What war? Body counts? Are Americans really dieing by the hundreds every month? I didn't notice. Tortured prisoners oh that’s poppycock, we were just joking around, it's all-good.

 

War is hell, but sometimes necessary. It's real easy to sit in your recliner (or in your case, I suspect a beanbag chair) and criticize. You have no idea what you are talking about.

 

Skumbag I didn’t invite you to discuses this topic. If I want your opinion I will say hey bigbooby what do you think? Again if you are tired of my post then buzz off. Know one has a gun to your head telling you to post a smart@$$ reply to my thread. I never did that to you ever so don't do it to me. Let it happen again and watch.

 

Good guess I do have a beanbag chair but I don't use it, the company does. IM not sitting back criticizing it. I tell it like it is bub.

 

Mis-informed? I think not. You were the one saying that the media should focus on people voting against funding the troops. I agree with you, the media should indeed focus on such things. It's not a republican/democrat thing here. It's politicians on both sides failing to get the job done in an appropriate time frame (when it comes to the funding). You mentioned votes against funding, not I.

Logistics, yes, I understand that armored humvees are not pooped out of Rumsfeld's bum.

As Rumsfeld said, You go to war with the army you have, not the army you would like to have.

^^^ I agree with him completely.

You got all of that out of my simple response in regards to your comments aboutvotes on funding? Apparently you can make a mountain out of a molehill and thus create my thoughts out of words I did not type. If only you were successful in doing such things, you could make a career out of it and I would wish you the best of luck - Although you would not really need it if you truly had "the talent" for it.




The deal with the vehicles not being armored...... It was hard to predict that ALL military vehicles would be in danger zones. This enemy attacks our troops in so many ways. They attack those in the front lines, supply trucks, support vehicles, aid vehicles in towns helping needy citizens, etc etc etc.

Of course it is very difficult to armor so many vehicles. Of course there are setbacks. If you listen to Rumsfeld's comments, you will get an even better understanding of all of this as well.

Like I told you early on in this thread, it's not as big of a story as the media is making it out to be.

 

I know you agree with all of this since most of the media is on your side.
I don't have a problem with people knowing the body count.

What I do have a problem with is most news networks in this country, cbs, abs, nbs, 60 minutes, primetime, nightline.

These networks run specials about the body count in Iraq ONLY, they don't
say a thing about the poor souls who died in Afghanistan because it doesn't
fit their need.
They use the news and their shows to further their agenda, attacking Bush,
Rumsfeld and the war in Iraq, it really had nothing to do about the people who
died.

They always run anti-iraq, republican, conservative bs and NEVER have anything positive on any of their shows for any reason.

Look at the left in this country, Michael Moore and other hollywood types,
the media, etc, their message is loud and clear and most Americans don't
agree with their radical views, this is why your guy lost.

Its all ok though because the media and the democrats are driving a further
wedge between them and the American people, they will continue to lose
future elections, win 5 states and the other 47 will vote republican.
You will continue to lose the house and senate.

Moveon.org just pulled the plug on Terry and the Democratic party btw.

 

Yes

Wait, No. You answered for me. I retract my Yes. You obviously know me better than i know my own self. I am hungry, what should I eat?

I have enough common sense to know that if I turn on CNN I am going to get more than my fair share of news stories that are anti-republican and that if I turn on Fox I am going to get more than my fair share of news stories that are anti-democrat.

In general right now, most coverage overall is anti-republican though.

I am a few years removed from a college setting, but I imagine your "talents" are good enough to know as much. When I was at LSU, politics were not a part of my courses.

You sound like someone that has sat in a college classroom within the past few weeks becuase obviously you know. So you tell me. :wink:

I do not see the world in terms of black and white. I find it hard to believe that you would not know I was a Kerry supporter and voted for Kerry. Being a regular poster on TigerForums, you would have to have been asleep at the wheel for over a year not to know that.

I supported Dole over Clinton in 96 and voted for Dole. What's your point here?

Yes, lets not put words into one another's mouths. That would definitely be a bad idea to do such things. :grin: