Seventeen That would be first rounders under his watch i.e. guys he recruited:thumb: By the looks of these posts...Catastrophe syndrome has set in:cry:
My bad on Ray Lewis. He was an Erickson recruit. But you get the point. I forgot about Winslow and that a-hole Shockey. My point is BD still had problem players. Miami coaches always have as evidenced most recently with ole Willie Williams and his sociopathic problems. Given BD's character issues, I doubt that he is what LSU because we will always wonder when Butch will just jump ship again. My vote is for Ferentz.
Davis left Miami for the NFL, one jump. He would probably not be inclined to ever want to coach in the NFL again most likely. I really don't think he would be any more likely than Ferentz to jump ship, maybe even less likely as Ferentz would be showing his willingness to jump at another offer by coming to LSU and who's to say he has no NFL bug as well.
I agree with DDTigerfan I don't think he should be given 7 to 10 days to make a decision, for many reasons. First of all, he's talked to 1 quarter of the NFL already, he should know by now what he wants and needs to go to an NFL team. He shouldn't get anymore money or this yearly shakedown of LSU will never end. You either go or you don't and it doesn't take 2 weeks to know this. These people who are whining for him to stay should stop and think not about Nick and the wins but about foolish he is making LSU and your university look. This is a yearly shakedown job and LSU finally needs to call his bluff and he either stays or goes. This guy is not Vince Lombardi folks. He got hammered by Georgia, should have lost to Oregon St., Troy......was pummedled twice by Spurrier, lost to UAB etc etc. I remember the NC....I was there and I appreciate all that he has done for the university. But does everybody like the annual event of him having "preliminary talks" with X team? Or how much he loves LSU and Baton Rouge? He either needs to go and go now or stay and I would demand he stop the yearly crap with the the NFL. Chicago wasn't the "right situation." Neither was Jacksonville, or NY, or Indie or now maybe Miami...what is his right situation? Or maybe he already has it and wants everyone to bow to him every Christmas? Either way, I've been around LSU since I was born in 1971. I remember the losing and the coaching searches and I remember the Sugar Bowl last year so don't bring that crap up. But the yearly talking to NFL teams hurts our recruiting no matter what anyone says and there's plenty of coaches out there right now that we couldn't 5 years ago that we can now get. It's not worth it. If he wants to go to the NFL, he needs to go. If not, coach football and don't get beat by Georgia by 30.
I see your points Well, I don't feel like doing research to see if indeed Winslow and Shockey are "clean", but I can tell you they have character issues and would not fit the mold of a Michael Clayton or Marcus Spears, you follow me? Anyways, this is all kind of subjective. My Butch Davis comment is open ended to another college or NFL job. You can't say his experience with the Brown's will absolutely deter him from going back to the NFL down the road. The Brown's org isn't exactly the best. Many coaches get 2nd chances in the NFL like Denny Green and Schottenheimer(sp?). At the end of the day, sometimes money is too good to turn down. Ferentz I can't say for sure he wouldn't go to the NFL, but who's to say Tedford, Riley, Dan Hawkins, Petrino, etc. aren't as risky to jump to the NFL one day? It's a risk you have to take. Saban's popularity for NFL jobs has been more of a good selling point to recruits, than a deterent assuming the coaches are up front to the recruits about not going.
For the record Winslow was one of Coker's recruits and other than having a big mouth neither one of them "seems" to be bad guys
