Lance Armstrong

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  1. LSUsupaFan

    LSUsupaFan Founding Member

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    In these mountains of evidence do they have even 1 failed drug test?
     
  2. Robidoux87

    Robidoux87 You call that a double?

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    Here is a list of men who never failed a drug test, either: Roger Clemens, Barry Bonds, Mark McGwire (though he admitted it). No less than three of his old teammates told federal investigators that they witnessed Lance doping. You don't lie to the feds just because you hate a guy.
     
  3. Robidoux87

    Robidoux87 You call that a double?

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    Anyway, the agency has said that it will release its evidence, so we can all review it and make our own decisions.
     
  4. shane0911

    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village

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    I don't think he ever did any "roids" or any of that stuff. As to whether or not he blood doped, well I'd have to say yes. I would also say that anyone who was anyone on the cycling tour did the same damn thing (for those that don't know, blood doping is boosting your red blood cell count by either infusing your own blood or by using synthetic EPO)

    I think it is a witch hunt, I think it is people that Lance has pissed off royally at some point in his past because he is an arrogant longhorn jerk but I still like the guy. As with every "breaking" story in this country. It will be news for a day, maybe a week, until something else steals the spotlight. Ryder cup around the corner, Football starting soon, how quickly we will forget.
     
  5. Herb

    Herb Founding Member

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    The USADA has Roger Goodell like authority to declare absolute guilt based on flimsy evidence at best. Armstrong was trying to get a change of venue to an actual court of law. Even though the judge concluded that the USADA had the jurisdiction, he chastised them in his ruling about their highly suspect tactics.

    Once the deck was stacked against him, Armstrong in essence pulled a Sean Payton and swallowed the bitter pill.

    This is no more an admission of guilt than Sean Payton, Mickey Loomis, and Joe Vitt essentially admitting guilt by accepting Goodell's draconian suspensions.
     
  6. stevescookin

    stevescookin Certified Who Dat

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    Honestly, I'm beginning to wonder if steroids should be legal.

    I understand how chronic use is deleterious healthwise and I really believe that competition should be based on natural abilities. I also don't believe that winning should be at all costs.

    But is it any different than other more acceptable performance enhancing drugs....like Viagra? ;)
     
  7. shane0911

    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village

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    I don't think this is about roids. I think it is about raising his red blood cell count. The only way to prove it would be to have a positive test for EPO and from what I understand he never failed a test. I'm not saying he didn't do it, I think he was really good at it. ;)
     
  8. MLUTiger

    MLUTiger Secular Humanist

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    Supposedly there are 14 former teammates willing to testify against him. At this point, I think it's silly to think he was clean. From what I know about cycling, no one is clean. They just have ways of passing the testing.
     
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  9. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    Of course he did it. Tests are meaningless. Marion jones passed them too.
     
  10. Winston1

    Winston1 Founding Member

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    I guess we will never be certain, but I remember a 60 minutes spot where they measured his heart's capacity to pump blood and found it pumped twice as much as a normal athalete's heart.
    I also know the only evidence the USADA has is what they coerced from other riders. Two of whom are admitted perjurers the others all ahev had their arms twisted.
    This seems more like a group with a vendetta than trying to find the truth. I wish he had not quit and continued the fight.
     

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