Kofi Annan's Delusions of Grandeur

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  1. Mystikalilusion

    Mystikalilusion Founding Member

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    What can't I refute? The UN is garbage? I agree.

    As for the Iraqi terrorists, ah, but to them, we've invaded their country. We wish to force our culture on them. We're the bad guys. They're just normal people fighting against us, just like we'd be fighting against the japanese if they invaded america.

    These individuals are separate from the fundamentalist terrorists who have now flocked to Iraq as it's become a breeding ground for anti-american sentiment and terrorists. Which it wasn't before we arrived.
     
  2. Mystikalilusion

    Mystikalilusion Founding Member

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    But why? I'm not attacking, I'm just asking.

    What's the difference? We're all human beings. I have a hard time buying the abortion stance of conservatives when they can turn around and say that all life is not equal.
     
  3. G_MAN113

    G_MAN113 Founding Member

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    You haven't been keeping up. Most of the so-called "insurgents" in Iraq aren't Iraqi nationals, but rather mercenary types from Syria, Iran, etc. The few
    that are Iraqis aren't the noble freedom fighter types you're portraying them to be...they're thugs who were loyal to Saddam and now have no place to go, and criminals that Saddam freed from the prisons before the invasion...in short, people who would cause trouble no matter what the setting.
     
  4. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    BINGO!!

    By the way, mystic, the thread topic is that suddenly the UN (Annan) wants to take credit for the gains made by Iraqis in regaining control of their own country, when, in fact, they should get zero credit. Their refusal to enforce their own sanctions is, in large part, a reason why the US is so totally involved in the damn conflict.

    (That sound you hear is another can of worms being opened up).
     
  5. G_MAN113

    G_MAN113 Founding Member

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    That's because based on our actions, all life is NOT equal. But everybody at least deserves a chance to live. Can you tell me that Charles Manson's life has equal value to that of a 7-month old fetus? That fetus, if given a chance, might one day discover a cure for AIDS. But he needs to live before he can do that.
     
  6. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Iraq has been good to the Annan family, all right. He didn't mention his son's kickbacks from the $10 billion in "food-for-oil" dollars he let Saddam have, illegally.

    Annan has outlived his usefulness. It was the US that supported him in the first place in order to oust the much worse Boutrous-Boutrous Galli. But now he is losing support quickly.

    Annan's future clouded, U.S. says

    From combined dispatches
    NEW YORK -- The Bush administration said yesterday that U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan's future in the office "is not certain" despite the U.N. chief's assertion that he had been cleared by investigators probing the huge Iraq oil-for-food scandal.

    U.S. Deputy Assistant Secretary of State Mark Lagon, briefing a small group of reporters in New York, said Mr. Annan had been premature in claiming vindication for his oversight of the program from a March 29 report issued by a U.N.-appointed inquiry led by former Federal Reserve Chairman Paul A. Volcker.

    "The report did not exonerate him," Mr. Lagon said during a visit to the U.N.'s New York headquarters, according to an account by the Reuters news agency.

    Mr. Lagon repeated the official State Department line, saying the United States government did not support Mr. Annan's resignation, but added: "His future is not certain. ... It's his decision."

    Mr. Annan, whose term concludes next year, has resisted growing calls from U.S. lawmakers and others that he step down because of the oil-for-food scandal.

    Considered the biggest financial black eye in the world body's history, the sanctions program allowed Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein to siphon off an estimated $10 billion in smuggled oil sales, inflated contracts, bribes and kickbacks, according to the U.S. Government Accountability Office.

    read the rest
     
  7. Contained Chaos

    Contained Chaos Don't we all?

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    Staying off-topic...but if that fetus is unwanted by its parents, it is 1000x more likely to contract & spread HIV rather than curing it.
     
  8. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    So, you're saying that not wanting children causes AIDS? :confused:
     
  9. Contained Chaos

    Contained Chaos Don't we all?

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    YES! That is exactly what I'm saying! If you do not want your child it will develop HIV in the fetus! Brilliant!
     
  10. locoguano

    locoguano Founding Member

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    I have a nephew who was unwanted.. he is with a family that adopted him and he is on the honor roll.. try again.. if every abortion in the US were stopped today, there still wouldnt be enough kids to fill the adoption requests. People are going to Russia and spending their savings to adopt a healthy (usually white) kid.
     

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