Who cares about all this garbage? Let's figure out a way to get more control over the oil in the middle east. I'm sick of paying too much at the pump.
This may be a bad assumption on my part, but I would think the first thing the special prosecutor did was to verify her job at the CIA. Afterall, if she is not an operative, there would be no case. I would hate to think he has not verified that she is an operative after 18 months of investigating.
Got a Source? Here is what I've found. The best one is the summary by Kevin Drum on E. Pluribus Unum 1. MSNBC reports that CIA lawyers are "affirming that the woman's identity was classified." 2. CNN reporter David Ensor reports that his sources at the CIA say Plame is an employee of the operations side of the agency. "This is a person who did run agents," Ensor said. 3. The White House email notifying staffers of the Justice Department investigation characterized it as "an investigation into possible unauthorized disclosures concerning the identity of an undercover CIA employee." 4. Former CIA Director James Woolsey, a neocon and hardly a Bush basher, agrees that this was a serious leak: "You can endanger intelligence and people's lives by revealing the identities of CIA case officers, so it's a serious matter." 5. From William Pitt: "Ray McGovern, who was for 27-years a senior analyst for the CIA, further confirms the status of Plame within the CIA. 'I know Joseph Wilson well enough to know,' said McGovern in a telephone conversation we had today, 'that his wife was in fact a deep cover operative...'" The Vanity Fair article is clear. "Surprisingly, given that Plame was at the center of a Justice Department investigation that could conceivably cause serious damage to the Bush administration, hardly anyone paused to take in the slim 40-year-old with white-blond hair and a big, bright smile. In July the syndicated conservative columnist Robert Novak published an item revealing that Plame was a C.I.A. "operative." The information had been leaked to him by "two senior (Bush) administration officials," who were trying to discredit a report her husband had done for the C.I.A.-the implication being that Wilson got the job only because his wife got it for him. Evidently the "two senior administration officials" did not realize it is a federal crime to knowingly reveal the identity of an undercover C.I.A. agent. As a result, Plame is now the most famous female spy in America-"Jane Bond," as her husband has referred to her. However, even in Washington circles, few people yet know what she looks like. " Plame's bio is on Wikipedia. "Valerie Plame (born 1963) is an employee of the American Central Intelligence Agency who was identified as a CIA "operative" in a newspaper column by Robert Novak on 14 July 2003. This created a political controversy and eventually led to a Justice Department investigation into possible violation of U.S. criminal law regarding exposure of covert government agents. As of July 2005 the investigation is still underway. Plame remains an employee of the CIA." "Plame's life history has been documented in the January 2004 Vanity Fair article "Double Exposure." But little is known of Plame's professional career. She has described herself as an energy analyst for the private company Brewster Jennings & Associates, which was subsequently acknowledged by the CIA as a front. It has been reported that this cover was not executed very convincingly." "Plame was identified as a CIA "operative" in Novak's column, which read in part: 'Wilson never worked for the CIA, but his wife, Valerie Plame, is an Agency operative on weapons of mass destruction.' "In a October 1, 2003 Knight Ridder report entitled "Justice Launches Probe Into CIA Leak," an anonymous CIA official was quoted as saying, "If she was not undercover, we would have no reason to file a criminal referral," referring to the referral by the CIA to the Justice Department that a crime may have been committed." If Plame's identity as a CIA employee was in fact classified, Rove's leak may also have violated other U.S. laws, including the Espionage Act. Failure to protect classified information, criminal or not, is often grounds for the revocation of one's security clearance. Finally, Rove has been interviewed by the FBI and has testified before a grand jury. Misrepresentations to either could be a crime."
Karl Rove was fired from the 1992 re-election campaign of Bush Sr. for allegedly leaking a negative story about Bush loyalist/fundraiser Robert Mosbacher to Novak. Novak's piece described a meeting organized by then-Senator Phil Gramm at which Mosbacher was relieved of his duties as state campaign manager because "the president's re-election effort in Texas has been a bust." Rove was fired after Mosbacher fingered him as Novak's source. Rove was the "only one with a motive to leak": Mosbacher says: "I said Rove is the only one with a motive to leak this. We let him go." The motive in question? Mosbacher had given Rove only a quarter of the $1 million spent on direct mail contracts for the 92 campaign; Rove, who in 1988 had the entire direct mail contract, therefore had an axe to grind with Mosbacher. Novak's column stated: "Also attending the session was political consultant Karl Rove, who had been shoved aside by Mosbacher." Mosbacher still says Rove did it: Although Novak and Rove continue to deny Rove was the source of the leak, Mosbacher recently stated "I still believe he did it."
Well, that's nice and all, Red...but as I stated, what I heard was the LAST THING I'd heard on the matter. Now what you've presented is the last thing I've heard on the matter. Dude, I know you're absolutely foaming at the mouth for something scandalous to break about this administration, but how about waiting for all the facts on this to come out, huh? How about waiting to see what the garnd jury comes back with? That way you'll at least appear to be as open-minded and fair as you'd all like us to think you are.
I agree. The law states if anyone gives up her identity knowingly, it is federal crime. If he did that, march over there and have federal marshals or whomever arrest him and haul him off. If not, the government needs to drop it and move on. Red, I'll bet when the special prosecutor was investigating Clinton for perjurying himself you were saying to just move on.....who cares. But this story has you and the press going crazy cause of your hatred for Bush. I saw where, because of the tax cuts and a robust economy, government revenue was higher than expected and the deficit has dropped by $100 billion. (Means nothing since the deficit is fictious anyway) But if it had gone up by $100 billion there'd be headlines on every website.......
:lol: Why in the hell would I threaten anyone? I'm not stupid! :dis: :dis: The truth of the matter is you would look awfully stupid spreading these rumors around when all the facts aren't out yet. If more of this story comes out and you are wrong people will think less of your opinions that is all. This is too funny, I can't believe it! I'll ask you once again, Did you support anything this president has ever done? Were you against us going into Afghanistan? That should make it easier for you! Take it easy, In no way would I ever threaten anyone other than terrorists :grin: :usaflagwa :thumb:
Dude, we're just talking here. There has been scandal after scandal in this administration. I never have to wait long. We will all be interested in the grand jury investigation. That's right, just change the subject to Clinton and make assumptions about what I thought about it. :lol: Now let's see, you are about the third person on this thread who tells me that I hate Bush. I challenge you to find one single post where I have said I hate Bush. I can show you several where I stated that I did not. I'll make it just as clear as I can and I'll use really small words, so you can understand. I don't hate George Bush, he's a real likable guy. I simply think George Bush is an incompetent President. And if I loved George Bush like a brother, Karl Rove would still be in trouble. Now, why don't you just stick to telling us what you think and give up trying to tell me what I think.
Red, From some of the posts you post here people really truely think you hated Bush. Seriously, Its more than a few posters on here I'm sure that thought that. We may have been wrong?
I haven't seen so many democrats this worked up(sarcasm intended) since Bill and Hillary had 500 illegal FBI files in their possesion, or people in their administration were stuffing top secret materials down their pants and taking it home or accepting campaign funds from communist chinese and then giving them missile technology to launch sattelites.(Sattelites my A$$) Some of you people on here are calling for Roves head or that he needs to go to prison, but then you are disturbingly quiet about the above transgressions. Where was all this outrage when real harm was being done to this country? (Lets not even talk about the nuclear capabilities handed to North Korea during the clinton reign) Rove tried to tell a reporter his story was wrong, Chaney didn't hire the guy, but that his wife recommended him for the job. (Now there's the crime of the century)
