Karl Rove scandal starting to break open

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  1. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Alright, rickyD, that was a much better response. Corroboration always helps make your point.

    a few comments:

    1. I do remember two Clinton cabinet officials resigning under pressure, but no Congressmen to rate with Lott, Livingston, or Gingrich.

    2. Since Valerie Plame was reported to be an intelligence agent involved with WMD, this incident has more potential to hurt America than China. Deterrence works against China, not agaisnt Islamic terorists.

    3. The republicans worked feverishly to unseat Clinton and resorted to all kinds of nasty rhetoric in the Whitewater Special Investigation (which did not indict Clinton) and in the Impeachment Hearings (in which he was acquitted). You have forgotton that, maybe. And all of the bad press from the right concerning the Clinton Health plan.

    4. Perhaps you are right and Clinton made a bad decision over the technology transfer/trade deal with China. Bush has made some bonehead decisions, too. My point is . . . neither President broke any laws. If Karl Rove identified Valerie Plame he is guilty of a particularly despicable Federal Crime and potential futher violations of the Espionage Act. If he lies to the Grand Jury about it, he faces potential perjury charges, as well. This is not a petty thing.

    5. People are eager to see how George Bush chooses between personal loyalty to an aide and his responsibility to maintain trust and confidence in the White House.
     
  2. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    No, but I'm going fishing with a Libertarian this weekend . . . :grin:
     
  3. LsuCraig

    LsuCraig Founding Member

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    It's funny how all of you guys talk about schooling somebody. When that doofus lawyer wannabe (another dude who talked about how much he knew and what he did) KTeam was so dead wrong about the property rights decision from the SC, he said he was schooling.............do you two mean you need to go back to school?.........it must be cause I don't know how you've schooled me by saying that Libertarians are about more than pot.

    "We're for pot paraphernalia too."
     
  4. LsuCraig

    LsuCraig Founding Member

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    Wanna rethink that Red? Clinton lied under oath to a federal Grand Jury and was disbarred by the Arkansas Supreme Court. Lil Kim, the rapper for anyone over 40, is going to jail for a year for the same thing.
     
  5. Contained Chaos

    Contained Chaos Don't we all?

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    By virtue of your own ignorance, this comes as no surprise.
     
  6. G_MAN113

    G_MAN113 Founding Member

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    Something that I HAVEN'T forgotten that you seem to have, is that the nasty rhetoric was coming from BOTH sides, Red. No need to go portraying Bill Clinton as some sort of innocent victim here. He was giving just as good as he got. And just because he wasn't indicted in the whole Whitewater thing doesn't necessarily mean that he and Hilary didn't pull some sort of shenanigans. These people were past masters at covering their tracks. You know, OJ got away with a double homicide and Michael Jackson got away with child molestation, so you can plainly see that the system doesn't always work. Too many people around that Whitewater deal went to jail for me to believe that there wasn't a fire where that smoke was coming from.
     
  7. LsuCraig

    LsuCraig Founding Member

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    You are truly the master.....schooled again I suppose? How do you do it......?
     
  8. tirk

    tirk im the lyrical jessie james

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    obviously when anyone laughs incessantly in their responses or brings up their occupation or claims their own victory in debate or their rare unconvential thinking, it explains all you need to know. that groundhog was exposed to sun long ago.
     
  9. Contained Chaos

    Contained Chaos Don't we all?

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    So true. For individuals like you two that are devoid of the intellectual capacity of comprehending relatively simple concepts, you need not base your characterization of others on anything other than a few cosmetic details. You don't actually want to get caught up in a sensible argument with them under any circumstances.
     
  10. tirk

    tirk im the lyrical jessie james

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    sensible arguments would be the one thing you're most often missing then proclaim your superiority.

    there's good debates then there's your countless, nonsensical, endless loops. The greatest intellect displayed in such threads is probably the avoidance of it. You should probably learn which times its best to be silent though I keep little hope for success. tell us again how educated and well-versed you are. its been about 2 minutes.
     

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