If you believe juveniles should get the death penalty, do you have a minimum age requirement? Would you kill a 12 year old? How about 8? Do we even need a minimum age?
I have to agree with those who are for it. Here in Mississippi, one of those juveniles on death row was spared. All he did was beat his entire family to death with baseball bats as they slept, including his 2 year old baby brother. Why? Because his parents wouldn't let him use the family car. Yeah, this juvenile deserves the law's protection and mercy. WTF-ever.
IMO the problem with the death penalty is it doesn't help anything. Criminals are going to commit crimes. The death penalty does not deter them at all. Our whole justice system is crap. Rehabilition? ARE YOU KIDDING ME? We are putting people in jail for a couple years and then letting them out after they have learned tons more of illegal activities (See: the movie Blow). America will never resort back to shotting people in the head or hangings, so we can let that pipe dream go. The simple fact is, it's cheaper to keep people in prison for life than to execute them. So quit b*tching about tax payer money for their free rides. Many inmates do work, printing liscence plates and such, but they aren't going to do it if there's no incentive. There has to be some reason for them to do it.
Because that isn't what it says. In Hebrew, the word for "kill" and the word for "murder" are two different words and "murder" is the one which appears in the early manuscripts. Of course, this got mistranslated just about everywhere. http://www.ucalgary.ca/~elsegal/Shokel/001102_ThouShaltNotMurder.html
"Hanging one scoundrel, it appears, does not deter the next. Well, what of it? The first one is at least disposed of." - HLM
Criminals in these countries are put to death in what way? Beheaded, Tortured, Burned, Stoned, Drawn and Quartered.... the United States electrocutes, lethal injection (like going to sleep for surgery and never waking up), or gases you.... all of which are much less brutal... plus you get to live in a warm dry place and see your family and friends for years before it actually occurs. There is a distinct difference in our arrest, trial, and punishment process, from those aforementioned countries. I would be happy to just line them up and shoot each of them in the back of the head... its painless, faster, and more cost effective.
I agree. Ancient Hebrew only had about 8,000 words as opposed to modern English with over 120,000 words. It was difficult to express nuances without placing a word in context, especially in an oral tradition. They just didn't have the words for executions, battle deaths, suicides, homicides, fratricides, etc. But clearly the commandment was intended to mean "thou shalt not murder". "Thou shalt not kill" is the most overt mistranslation in the Old testament. The Hebrew of the sixth commandment is lo tirtsach. Tirtsach can mean to break in pieces, kill or murder. Lo is the Hebrew negative. After all, what did Moses do when he came down from Mount Sinai with the Ten Commandments and found the Israelites worshipping an idol? He had 3,000 of them killed! In fact, in the first five books of the bible, death by stoning is prescribed for breaking any of the first 7 commandments except possibly the second. Surely the commandment did not include killing by execution. David and Solomon were beloved of God yet they slew "thousands and ten-thousands" in battle. Surely the commandment did not include killing in battle. Ancient Hebrews killed animals for offerings and God even once asked Abraham for a human sacrifice. Surely the commandment did not include killing for offerings. "Thou shalt not murder", while not traditional in the King James Version, is actually the proper translation of the Sixth Commandment. It just did not survive multiple translations from Hebrew to Greek to Latin to English unscathed.
Holy crap Red, you speak Hebrew? Can you tell me some curse words so I can trash talk my boss and not get in trouble?? :hihi:
