JUST SAY KNOW

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  1. MLUTiger

    MLUTiger Secular Humanist

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    Do you have any feelings on the book "Drug War Politics: The Price of Denial"? You sound like you have studied and written volumes on this subject.

    Thanks, Sam. I'll hang up now and listen.
     
  2. tinsley

    tinsley Veteran Member

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    Katrina claimed my copy. However, long before that happened, I had ceased to seek answers from all but Thomas' Szasz' OUR RIGHT TO DRUGS. As far as I know, Szasz is the only published author who gets it right.

    How?

    Szasz calls for the REPEAL of Drug Prohibition on lawful grounds while all the others are seeking compromise or mercy . . . and by so doing, they concede to government the unlawful power of government to prohibit when no such lawful power exists.

    Americans ought to stop begging for legalization and start demanding repeal.

    tgsam
     
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  3. tinsley

    tinsley Veteran Member

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    <You sound like you have studied and written volumes on this subject.>

    I have. And like Frederic' Bastiat, I feel morally obliged to share my conclusions with my fellow Citizens. In fact, Bastiat plays a major role in my expressed passion for Liberty and Justice for every Individual.


    The law perverted! And the police powers of the state perverted along with it! The law, I say, not only turned from its proper purpose but made to follow an entirely contrary purpose! The law become the weapon of every kind of greed! Instead of checking crime, the law itself guilty of the evils it is supposed to punish!
    If this is true, it is a serious fact, and moral duty requires me to call the attention of my fellow-citizens to it. *snip* --Frederic' Bastiat


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  4. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    there are volumes and volumes of books in favor of drug legalization that "get it right".

    i understand what your point is, but the government will always make their own rules. you can say "well the constitution doesnt allow for such and such", and that is true, but not really relevant. we as a people are free to decide to care or not care about the constitution. of course we would be better off to stick to it as closely as possible, but your goofy "THIS IS UNLAwFUL OR UNJUST AND I AM THE CRAZY CODGER THAT WRITES LETTERS TO THE EDITOR OF THE LOCAL PAPER" argument never works.

    if we as a people want to decide that drugs are illegal, so be it. it sucks, and we should not do that, but your point about it being "unlawful" is ludicrous. unlawful according to who? you would be better off just making arguments about why drugs should be legal, not why their prohibition is unlawful or some nonsense.


    this is like when people argue that the iraq war is "illegal". who cares what is legal when you can do whatever you want? if we want to start a war with iraq, we can and if you dont like it, too bad. same with drugs. if we as a nation want to make them illegal, we are idiots, but we certainly have the right to rule ourselves stupidly.
     
  5. tinsley

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    I will not do nothing simply because I am able to do only a little. And what little I do will be a product of Conscience monitored Critical Thinking. There are a multitude of columnists, speakers, and letter-writers offering reasons to legalize marijuana, but how many individuals argue for the repeal of unlawful drug prohibition?

    Just how long would the medical marijuana people stay in the fight once they get what they want. Most would quit the field in a day.

    I'm convinced that power that is repugnant to the unamendable July 4, 1776 Action of the Second Continental Congress is unlawful.The power to punish individuals for possessing the means to self-medicate or engage in chemical self-pleasuring is unjust. In fact, it's even worse than unjust, it is intrinsically criminal.

    tgsam
     
  6. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    i am not saying you should o nothing. i am saying i think a more effective tactic would be to argue specifically why drugs should be legal. when you say "WELL DADBERN IT YER DRUGS DOCTOR HUBOLONGY USURPING THE BILL OF CONSTITUTIONVOTER CONSTOBULANARY JURIS NOT LAWFUL" it doesnt really work, just makes you sound crazy.


    not many, because like i said, that is a dumb way to go about arguing it. would you suddenly change your mind and think drugs were bad if there was a constitutional amendment that made their prohibition "legal" in your eyes?

    nobody cares about what you think of the constitution or the bill of rights or whatever your goofy point is about lawful vs legal. people think drugs are bad because they associate them with addiction and crime. you have to convince them that we would be better off if they were legal. they just dont care about your weird unabomber legal mumbo-jumbo.


    yes this is what i was referring to. trust me, this just makes you sound crazy, like a bearded weirdo in montana with a cabin and lots of guns.
     
  7. Nutriaitch

    Nutriaitch Fear the Buoy

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    yeah, but does he have a glass marlin?
     
  8. tinsley

    tinsley Veteran Member

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    My review of the book has been on the Internet for ten years. I've posted a copy of the review on this forum. It is as valid today as it was in 1999.

    tgsam
     
  9. tirk

    tirk im the lyrical jessie james

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    i think therein lies your problem.
     
  10. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    I'd bet money. :lol:
     

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