Just Like Mardi Gras, so they said......

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  1. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    i will happily be consistent. i am pro choice. i know abortion is murder. of course it is. i am pro murder in the case of abortion.

    life has relative value. killing an ant is not as sad as killing a human. neither is killing a fetus. if you have never met it, talked to it, or seen it, its especially easy to kill something. abortion is murder, sometimes murder is easy and justified.

    its not sad to kill a fetus. nobody even ever met the fetus. its as if the fetus never existed. not even the fetus was smart enough to realize it existed. murdering it shouldnt make anyone sad, unless they believe something stupid like jesus told them murdering was inherently wrong.

    so abortion is in fact murder. most pro choicers dont have the guts to admit it. i do. murder isnt always bad.
     
  2. CottonBowl'66

    CottonBowl'66 Founding Member

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    Like I said, the anti-abortion crowd won't tell you what kind of hypocritical world they want to see or the kind of nightmarish world they want created if their positions are carried out to logical conclusions.

    I guess anyone taking RU-487 might even be accused of murder someday if it can be proved they aborted a fertililzed egg. I would assume science either now or in the future will be able to tell.

    Abortion will always be with us. I guess they want every teenage girl who has one to be strapped to a gurney and have a needle put in her arm.

    I did not expect an answer because they cannot supply one.
     
  3. CottonBowl'66

    CottonBowl'66 Founding Member

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    I already answered the question on "rape, incest, or the life or health of the mother" as exceptions for abortion. It just was not the answer you anti-abortion fanatics wanted to hear.

    There is no abiguity. Blanco and many others think that if a woman becomes pregnant by a rapist or by an incestuous act, then an aborton should be allowed.

    If it is a case where the life or health of the mother is put in danger, then abortion should be considered a matter between her and her doctor, not Bobby Jindal, George W. Bush and the rest of the fanatics who want to make the decision for them and allow them to die.

    This is the last time I intend to address this.
     
  4. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    Break out the champagne.
     
  5. TigerEducated

    TigerEducated Founding Member

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    OK...

    What constitutes rape, CB'66?

    Is merely a woman leveling an accusation of rape enough for an abortion? Must the rape be a prosecuted and convicted case in the eyes of the law, or just an "alleged" rape?

    Where is the line drawn? How can you "speed" a rape prosectution through the court system in the time frame of 9 months? There's no way you could do it in time to have a verdict back and convict someone, thereby giving the "go ahead" for the pregnancy to be termed via a "rapist".

    How would you set it up? How would you establish a "rape" as official, if not in the legal sense? How could you speed a rape trial through in 6 months? There is no legal way, and no sensible way, to establish the legality and the viability of a "rape charge" in time to abort a child...

    So, that one doesn't hold water...

    As for incest, what if the incestuous relationship was between two consenting adults, and then only later, after a "parting of ways" of the two consenting adults, the female wanted an abortion. What was once the private, personal business of two conesnting adults now gives the woman to abort an unwanted pregnancy that she was once fine with?

    How do you plan to provide legal precedents for this instance of rape? Please...explain...

    As for the life of the mother, you're saying that the doctor would have to make a call that the mother's life was indeed in danger? Who would hold this man accountable in a court of law if the father of the child debated the health of the mother, and wanted a second opinion. What would happen then? Would it get embroiled into a long, drawn out legal situation in which either the child went past the point of no return, or the pregnancy indeed in fact endangered the child's life?

    You still have not answered any of these questions, and you can decide not to intend to address it anymore, but you haven't addressed it in the first place to give up now...Sorry, you lose.
     
  6. CottonBowl'66

    CottonBowl'66 Founding Member

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    My God, you really are stupid, TE. Of course you have no idea what you want to happen after Roe v Wade is overturned.

    You are as confused as your boy Jindal.

    And not worth discussing anything with further.
     
  7. TigerEducated

    TigerEducated Founding Member

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    Since when did you start discussing to stop discussing it any further?

    LOL!
     

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