This is such an important summary. I haven't had a chance to hear the presser, and I suspect most who will comment on the reinstatement nationally haven't or won't. I did see some player interviews after JH addressed the team and was allowed to rejoin the team. When you consider all of this information, and see the player testimonies, it is clear this was not just "brushed under the rug" and now that he has gotten through the judicial component that he is just reinstated. This was part of a process for CLM. JH and the team will all grow from these lessons; I think they already have and are on the upswing emotionally. They were real events w/real implications that CLM and JH have taken seriously and are now in the process of putting it behind them and will serve as a maturation process for the team as a whole. I think at this point, outside of publicity, it is a moot point re: suspension. CLM has taken a negative and made it a positive already.
Red, I hear people throw this out there a lot, and my answer to that is: "What if Hill were your SON?" I have a daughter and two sons. I'd be angry, disappointed, and scared for any of them if they played a role in this at all. Both parties broke rules and crossed lines. They were both in a situation they shouldn't have been in, doing things they SHOULD know better than to do. I've never been a fan of the whole "statutory" thing. 18 year old boys can't control themselves any better than they could at 16, and 14 year old girls can make themselves seem much, much older. Did you check the drivers license of every girl you ever had relations with? I know I didn't. My point is, the girl isn't a clear-cut "victim" any more than he's a clear-cut "rapist". That's why they dropped the charges down and he doesn't have to register as a sex offender. There is too much gray area. This isn't homerism, as I personally think Blue is AT LEAST just as good as Hill, and the only reason I care at all is because he's a Tiger, and he's family (twice removed).
2. If she was assaulted it would be assault. If she chooses to go against everything her mother and I have instilled in her and disrespect herself in that manner, I'll give her a hug and try my best to explain her mistake to her and hope she makes better choices in the future. What I won't do is ruin a young kid's life behind it. Her poor choice as a freshman doesn't warrant ruining a schoolmates life. If this is a college student or someone beyond high school, all bets are off. But I don't personally expect high school student, even a senior, to make adult choices and understand law to the level of not taking a hummer from the slutty schoolmate. I've seen angry fathers ruin lives up close and personal. I had a very good friend growing up who just got out of jail this year after serving almost 19 years of a 30 year sentence for sleeping with the school whore when he was 17 and she was 14. The sad thing is it literally happened on his birthday. She was the proverbial rebellious, white girl sleeping with all the black boys. When her dad found out she freaked and cried rape, pointing out the kid she actually wanted to be her boyfriend (but he rejected her), even though that day in question she had orchestrated a gangbang. Noone asked her to do it. She took it upon herself to initiate it. So he gets arrested. When she cried rape her story changed several times. None of it made sense. The accused boy told his story and it never changed. The boys who witnessed told the same story, and it never changed. After he's arrested she realizes how serious this is and tells her dad she wasn't raped. He doesn't care. She sneaks and tells the judge and he doesn't care either. The judge tells the boys who witnessed if they don't shut up he'll have them arrested as well. Before the "trial" I witnessed her dad leave the principal's office dragging her out of there while she literally begged him not to go forward with this because she wasn't raped. But he was embarassed his baby girl was sleeping around with black kids. So him, having status and pull in the community, used that to have this kid basically thrown away. The judge sentenced him to 30 years. He went to jail in late 94, got sentenced in 95, just got out in 2013. Sadly his story is not exclusive. This has happened plenty of times. So nope. Sorry. I can't see ruining a kid's life because my daughter used poor judgment. In Hill's case the girl didn't even cry rape. Never said she was forced, coerced, nothing. But, the law is the law. And an embarassed father can make ill-advised decisions too.
It's scary that stuff like this can happen...even in this modern age (I still consider the 90's "modern"). I wonder, if it had been a group of white boys, would it have made a difference?
I understand what you are saying, I know that every situation is different and i know that other parties were involved, but really amigo . . . How is sitting Hill on the bench for a few games "ruining his life"? Seriously? However people want to spin it, legally and morally Mr. Hill committed two assaults. I think a long probation and missing some PT is appropriate and consistent with Les' disciplinary style.
I'm sure he'll miss some playing time, Red. I imagine he'll get clean-up duty for the first few games, if he's lucky. His overall numbers will suffer, and he'll go into his final year with us projected to be drafted MUCH lower, which may actually cause him to get drafted lower. He broke the law. He'll pay the price. But I can't say with certainty that what happened with that girl can really be described as "assault", because I wasn't there. All I can go by is what has been reported and rumored, which all may be a sack of bullshit, as far as I know. Based on the court's decision to reduce the charges, however, I'd say they're probably right...he simply did the wrong thing with the wrong girl.
I'm not saying sitting Hill on the bench for a few games is gonna ruin his life. I'm simply answering the question of "what if it were your 14 year old daughter?" That guys life is ruined. Hill will be fine. But it COULD HAVE been much worse...see Genarlow Wilson. I'm not opposed to him sitting for a few games. I'm also not opposed to him sitting no games at all and that's not because I just want him on the field.
To be fair, actually seeing how angry her father was, probably so, but not to that extent. If you find out baby girl is being a porn princess at 14-15 years old I don't think sharing skin color will keep you from being angry. I doubt he and the judge would've acted so harshly however.
I think the fact that the boys were black could have made the dad even more angry and vindictive. Sad, but true. If your daughter is a ho, it doesn't really matter if the boys she's doing are white or black, does it? A group of black boys (one was the son of a MLB player) in Prosper, near here, were arrested for rape last year (the "victim" was white.) It was ruining those boys' lives and later came out that she was lying.