Jeremy Hill Arrested

Wow thanks for the info.....don't really follow other teams but this does add some valued perspective...

 

Bhelm, thats good information and does help frame the conversation. However, I'd suggest one should also include recent ex-LSU players. And drug use. Anything that shows the program in a poor light. LSU is one of the handful of elite national programs; as such LSU is under more of a microscope and generates bigger headlines. LSU has had a LOT of national goodwill and respect for various reasons including Katrina. To some extent its been the powerhouse that people in other states want to cheer for. Would be a shame for various knuckleheads to squander that goodwill. Finally, anyone trying to justify bad behavior by pointing to others that are just as bad or worse, is floating an elementary school level rationale.

 

Here's another pussy complaining about a punch. Just a punch from a 17 yr old soccer player.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/...ree-punched-during-game-dies-of-injuries.html

 

not justifying, but pointing out that all of the "elite" level schools seem to be in the same boat, or close. Like it or not, some of these kids come from less than ideal upbringings, but they're the type of players we need to complete at the level we want to be at.

Plus, with the no. of kids on the team, the percentage of kids getting into trouble is not that much. As long as Les handles it correctly when the mess up (and he does) I'm ok with the direction of the program.

 

Also interesting to include would be the total amount of bad publicity per program. I certainly can't prove this and am aware of no source for such stats, but suspect that the TM7 drug use episodes generated more headlines and water cooler talk ("honey badger don't care") than all of the other player arrests you cited combined. LSU losing its starting QB in a preseason bar-brawl likewise generated a huge amount of publicity. While LSU may not lead in total numbers, I'd be surprised if it doesnt lead in total negative nationwide coverage over the last few years.

 

Yet and still, LSU has not participated in any robberies or beatings like Bama and Tennessee has in the last couple of seasons. At worst, our guys have smoked weed and punched a couple of guys out a la' Johnny Manziel. Not making excuses, and we certainly should expect better from these kids (and we know CLM does). But Thug U we are not. I hate the word thug in this context with a passion...especially because it's often applied by middle-aged white men who don't seem to realize the racial (racial, not racist) undertones they're applying. Or maybe they do. Oh well. Nevertheless, none of these kids measure anywhere close to being a thug and would shiss (shit and piss) their pants in the presence of real thugs.

 

This is exactly right. The two terms that get thrown around when black athletes get into trouble are "thug" and "hood mentality". It's really just a way for white people to call them "niggers" without having to say it. You never, ever hear it when it's white guys getting into trouble, and true "thugs" usually drop out of school well before high school is over. The thought of them getting into/attending college for any length of time is laughable.

 

I think this proves you're not even trying to be honest. I don't think any program in the history of sports has gotten more negative publicity then what Penn State just went through, and is now on NCAA sanctions for. Then you have ND's Manti Teo incident, he just got booed out of Radio City Hall last week when he took the stage for getting selected in the Draft (did that happen to TM7? nooo...). And that's not to mention all the negative press the current ND coach got for putting the student up in the flimsy tower in heavy winds, which led to that student's death. Then you have USC and Ohio State that were both hit so hard with NCAA sanctions that Carroll and Tressel had to leave college football...only to be replaced by Kiffin and Meyer, two of the coaches with the most negative reputations in college football. And everybody knows about how Mike Leach, just when it seemed he had gotten Texas Tech on the cusp of being a national power and Everybody's Favorite Team, made a player who just suffered a concussion go stand in the closet....Craig James' kid on top of everything. Then you have Auburn and all the negative attention they suffered during their National Title run due the Cam Newton fiasco. Then you had the whole Petrino scandal at Arkansas, just when it seemed they were on the cusp of becoming a national power. Then you had former Thug U coach Butch Davis stockpiling NFL talent at UNC, only to have 13 of them suspended, which resulted in Davis getting fired and UNC hit with NCAA sanctions. Then you had the whole Sharpiro mess involving 73 players at The U, which they are currently on sanctions for. Heck, I'm looking at an ESPN article right now that lists the recent scandals at USC (Carroll), Ohio State (Tressel), Arkansas (Petrino), and Miami (Sharpiro) on their Top Ten "list of the worst scandals in college sports" history, not just football (of course SMU is on it). Then you had that whole mess at Oregon that probably resulted in Chip Kelly bailing for the NFL and Oregon about to get hit with NCAA sanctions... Sports Illustrated's Stewart Mandel wrote this a few weeks ago: Oregon's violations under Kelly "seems likely to result in significant sanctions. My guess: a one-year bowl ban (like Ohio State's), scholarship reductions and recruiting restrictions such as a limit on official visits and/or coaches' evaluation dates and home visits"

And don't even get me started on the prominent programs that had a star player arrested recently, after reading up this week on arrests in college football, I was surprised to find their isn't a major program that hasn't had at least one star player arrested (and I'm sure if you go to their message boards, you'll find long threads full of fans going hysterical and claiming that all of college football is shaking their heads at them in shame)

 

Tiger_fan bringin' the emm-effing heat!!