Jeremy Hill Arrested

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  1. Tiger_fan

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    a probation-breaking felon is a guy that just got out of Angola and violated the terms of his parole. Hill is not a felon. to be a felon, you need to be charged with a felony. Hill's current charge is a misdemeanor and his first charge was a misdemeanor ("Hill pleaded guilty to misdemeanor carnal knowledge of a juvenile in January 2012"), and Hill is on misdemeanor probation (which is handled by your local JDC), not felony probation (which is handled by State of Louisiana Probation and Parole). it'll be interesting what the judge decides to do to punish Hill for violating his misdemeanor probation, here are some of the options:
    --Reprimand and warn the defendant.
    --Order that supervision be intensified.
    --Add additional conditions to the probation.
    --Order the defendant, as an additional condition of probation, to be committed to a community rehabilitation center
    --Extend the period of probation
    --Order that the probation be revoked (which would mean Hill would get no credit for his probation and would be looking at paying the full fine and/or jail sentence he was looking at for his original misdemeanor)

    as for what the other higher-ups decide to do, sure, politics can always come into any situation. i don't know if it's true or not but i heard the only reason Mett got kicked from the Georgia team is because the girl he messed around with was the daughter of some big booster
     
  2. wjray

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    You're partially right about Angola. The vast majority -- about 70% -- of the inmates there are serving life sentences or have been sentenced to death. These guys are almost all housed in maximum security. The other 30% are generally housed in either medium or minimum security and, yes, a felony conviction would qualify you to do time at Angola. But because of the relatively small medium or minimum security prisoners there, a first time felon actually doing time (as opposed to being placed on probation with a suspended sentence) would very likely end up somewhere else in the prison system, including just about any parish jail, most of which house DOC prisoners for a fee.

    You're also absolutely correct that simply punching -- or even pushing or slapping, for that matter -- a person and not causing significant damage is the misdemeanor of simple battery. But the key is not how many times you punched or even how the contact was made, the key is the damage done to the other person. If it's one punch that causes unconsciousness, or breaks a jaw, or causes extreme physical pain, then it's the relative felony of 2nd Degree Battery. It's a relative felony because such an offender could be sentenced to up to 5 years, with or without hard labor.

    Now, in your examples of stabbing or shooting, the likely charges there would be attempted (1st or 2nd) degree murder, attempted manslaughter and/or aggravated battery.

    So, it's entirely possible but not at all likely (and certainly not Hill's case here) that simply punching a guy COULD land you on The Farm. But, damn, that would be take really shitty karma.
     
  3. TwistedTiger

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    If that was the case Jefferson would have been shown the door instead of handed a starting job he didn't earn. It was a gamble taking Hill after his first run in with the law. If he wasnt such a super athlete Miles would have passed. It looks like it was a bad gamble IMO. Miles and the LSU program have risen to the point where there is no need to take such gambles in the future. The onslaught of ignorant athletes pissing on LSU's name needs to end. LSU and Miles took Hill so they need to ride it out and try to save him, but no more gambles. Time to make character a bigger part of the recruiting equation.
     
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    roynav free your mind

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    I agree with this to a point, but the first level of personal responsibility HAS to rest with the individual. Otherwise we are all pawns of forces beyond our control and blameless for our actions.

    As far as society playing a role, well one could argue every homer on a bulletin board making excuses for bad behavior contributes to the phenomenon. As does everyone who idolizes someone just because they can run fast or jump high, regardless of what kind of character they possess.
     
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  7. roynav

    roynav free your mind

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    Oh? Did Miami ever star on ESPNs front page with two stories about players arrested on unrelated charges? Damn fine publicity that. Make you proud to be a Tiger?
     
  8. roynav

    roynav free your mind

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    Arguable that LSU would not be competitive. Les will lose his job if too many more of his players end up in jail. And LSU football might find it harder to recover from being perceived as Thug U2, than it would from having to roll the dice with a new coach. I'm by no means saying LSU is there yet, but this is happening too often to be treated lightly. With all of the LSU or ex-LSU players in the news for the wrong reasons these past few years, its regretable that not all of the players seem to have gotten the message yet.
     
  9. roynav

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    Be damned if I know why you would assume that.
     
  10. Tiger_fan

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    Speaking of the first level of personal responsibility resting with the individual and making us proud to be a Tiger, why don't you take a look in the mirror? Between Hill getting a misdemeanor for messing around with a high school freshman in high school and getting a misdemeanor for punching someone at Reggies on one hand, and a raving lunatic like you going around public forums bashing LSU as having a serious problem with the number of players we have arrested.... Who is the bigger idiot and embarrassment to LSU? Unless you can show me that the number of players LSU has arrested is anywhere close to being a lot for a program, then between Hill and people like you, i think it's people like you that are the bigger examples of stupidity and embarrassment to LSU
     
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