This is a very good point. The coaching staff obviously wants the qb position to minimize the turnovers. Look at the way he checks off his receivers. The underneath routes are there, not to mention the fact that there are MANY playmakers on this offense. It's only been two games, one with sh*tty weather and half the people didn't want to stay in the rain, and the other was 12,000 miles away. Jetlag anyone? Granted, this is a different season from last year. But personally, I'd rather see short passes for gains than picsixes. However, once we get into the meat of our schedule, defenses will force us to go long. It's just a matter of when the coaching staff decides it's the right time to open the playbook. I hate to say this, because Jarrett Lee IS a tiger, and I don't disrespect any tigers, but if he throws another picsix this year, you'll hear a boo from Tiger Stadium similar to when Saban came onto the field last year.
Also, they could be telling him to take the underneath routes first because of his elongated throwing motion. he throws like a baseball pitcher.
Im not taking anything personally, I just dont see why they should alternate, just like when Ryan P was coming in for Flynn. I thought it messed up Flynns rhythm. I think JJ has been decent, I never said he was great, but what LSU QB has been great the last 10 years even with our 2 NCs? If Lee was playing well or about the same as JJ, I wouldnt want JJ to be rotated in. Would you? I believe you build a QBs confidence by letting him play, why are you so personally invested in seeing Lee play? How do you stretch the field, when you arent getting any time in the pocket?
I agree with this, if JJ starts to struggle and starts making stupid decisions, and losing us games, then yes, he needs to be yanked. I do however think the 2 headed monster would work if we were in 2012 with Shep and Garrett. Jordan Jefferson can throw the ball, he doesn't have a quick motion like Lee does, but he does not make dumb decisions. Why put in Lee for passing plays, when Jefferson is sufficient in the passing game so far?
Very true, way too early to tell... the MI kid has some nice skills. 2 games at starter means very little like you said, especially against ND. I am not sold on JJ, he has ok feet which has helped take the pressure off. We'll see... 4 games so far, I would give him a C. He has a ton to learn and to me the last 2 weeks I don't know what he has learned. I would say he would be lucky to survive more than a season running the option, he's a long target to hit. IMHO 4 starts, played ok, nothing more, nothing less. The test will come when those 1-5 yard passes aren't there and the Scott up the middle play isn't working. They have a few more weeks before he is thrown into the fire.
Jefferson/Pryor - physically, they're too different to compare. I think Jefferson is a pro-style QB in the making with some running ability. I think Pryor is a freakish dual threat guy because of his solid 235lbs on a 6'6" frame. The difference will come down to what's between their ears. So far - I'll take Jefferson. As for Jefferson's performance so far - I think he's finally just settling into the idea that he can step into a pocket and be patient. His instinct is to bolter and throw on the run. Deeper routes (except for fly routes) take time to develop - he hasn't been given/hasn't waited enough time to see them develop so far this season. I think the coaches want him to hit Dickson/Lafell/Toliver over the middle 20+ yards, and I think - if you rewatch the Vandy game - he's just about ready to start doing that. Also - Vandy had a pretty good secondary.
clearly you are personally affected by this JJ talk for some reason even if you dont care to admit it. just roll with it. i prefaced it by saying if JJ is failing to throw down field to stretch the defense, it may make sense. though I have no way of knowing thats an issue with the coaching staff. the fact he had 6 neg passing plays is a big red flag for other teams on the schedule. if we think vandi's safeties were up in our jock, you can bet UGA and UGUMP are going to do it 100x more effectively until he proves otherwise. we have no vertical game as of yet. he will have to prove he can do so consistently to be effective. huh? i dont give a shiit if lee plays. in fact, his confidence was crushed by forcing him to play too much last year. i implied the coaches may sub him in if JJ needs to slow things down and observe from the sideline on occassion. the beauty of JJ is he can move the pocket and buy time. there are plenty times he can throw down field hes just chosen not to. once again, he will have to prove this to be effective against the big boys. the fact we havent won convincingly even though hes yet to throw a pick is somewhat worrisome. when that happens, we will have to be performing better offensively to account for it. I can see not being sold on him but to give him a C is a bit nuts. hes only started what, 4 games? shows composure and seems to make pretty smart decisions with extremely limited experience. anything worse than a B is pretty ridiculous. anything higher is as well. so its simple. he deserves a B. you can add a plus or minus depending on your preference.
Thanks for telling me how I feel. I am so much better now you seem to have all the answers for everything. No wonder your life is so great.:thumb:
dude its obvious. not that big a deal though. its cool. not really but i like to think i made valid points. its not all that bad. this is one great country.
I think he has run the plays given, they are afraid the pull the trigger which is not his fault. He has run the offense and hasn't made any really bad plays. I can't say he looks great, can't say he has looked bad... sounds like a C to me.... nothing wrong with a C with 4 starts, the problem is he hasn't been asked to do much either so... I'll just say C if you want to C+ or B, that's cool. We'll see... 4 ok games, nothing more, nothing less... the real test won't come till GA and FL, I think the OC better start opening up the playbook soon. IMHO
