Jarrett Lee - Casino Del Sol All-Star Game

Ace... that's fair enough. I respect ur opinion, but I don't agree with it.

Clm, i'll, screwed both lee and jj by not developing them into quality qb's. First of all, he was not consistent with them. With jj, to be fair, he played up his run ability and limited the playbook to that ability, instead making him face the issues he needed to overcome. With Lee, he would not commit to letting Lee grow within his strength. Again, a lot of Lees problem was the limited playbook designed for jj. As I've noted before, where were the te routes, quick outs, etc. Clm, like many, were stuck in the notion of pick 6up Lee of 2008. Just like I held my breath when jj stepped on the field anticipating a 3-out, clm, and others, held their breath waiting for Lee to throw a pick 6. .... inly difference, Lee didn't throw any pick 6s, while jj did fulfill the 3-out. Almost throwing a pick 66 doesn't count. Every pass
is almost an interception, but o.my the one that are intact can be counted as an int. Jmo

Hope u can make heads or tails of that..... I hate auto correct!

 

LOL. Maybe Lee should have thrown 5 last Spring Game too.

 

He used to regularly scramble for first downs. He was a pretty decent runner.

 

Flynn made a good number of mistakes in 2007 but he was making more than enough good plays to make up for it. He didn't have the best receiving corps but he did use Richard Dickson a lot and threw to the RBs as well. He had a gunslinger mentality in a run-oriented offense. He's not the same QB now in Green Bay as he was leaving LSU. He has improved a lot and hopefully he gets his shot somewhere.

 

I agree with you on all of this, that's a good post and a fair assessment of both JJ and JL. I said it on other posts here before, both guys did not get to develop and it was due to circumstances. Both coaching and personel. I think JL was more "college ready" out of High School than was JJ. I rembember watching High School video of JL and thinking we got a really good QB on the way. I think the skinny on JJ was he had raw ability but needed time to develop. You can thank Ryan Perriloux for both kids having to have accellerated ONJT. I personally think both kids would have been better with a redshirt (i know Jl had one) and two years of learning before ever seeing the field. I agree that consistency with CLM and our offense and treatment fo both kids played a factor in both JJ and JL not reaching their potential while at LSU.

 

Great NFL QB coaching will do this. I tell people, at times it doesn't matter how high you get drafted, more of, who drafts you. At times its better not to get drafted in later rounds, FA's often do well. FA often find a team of need, this helps them.

 

That is a great point and nothing could be further from the truth. Someone don't shoot me, but J. Russell is an example of going to the complete wrong team for him. Another team, a few draft picks lower, and Russell might have had a different outcome to his career.

Anyone seen any draftboards? Anyone know where JL sits on them and how many QB's were taken in last year's draft?

 

All you have to do is look at Aaron Rodgers and hear about how much work they did on his mechanics while he was riding the bench. He was a new QB after that point and we are seeing the results of it. Flynn was very fortunate to go through that for it to make him a better QB and give him a more successful future rather than getting thrown in the fire right away.

 

J. Russell had all the things, size, arm strength, etc. The NFL is an Equal Opportunity Employer. Everyone gets the same shot, what you do with it is your choice. Russell ended up with at that time one of the worst teams ever.

Talking with a draft guy the other day, he had Lee and few slots higher than JJ, but that was his take. He did say both have a shot to get into NFL camps, NFL teams need arms, WRs they got in these camps, they need someone to throw the ball. Most know their starters, they just need QBs to work the WR's RBs, TE's, etc.

 

Remember the year Flynn was drafted, GB took another QB in the second round(Matt was a 7th. round pick), who was the QB that Matt beat out for the back-up position?