JaMarcuss Russell vs Matt Flynn

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  1. locoguano

    locoguano Founding Member

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    not arguing that.. just making a general comment about qbs...
     
  2. LSUfreshman21

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    I agree with the idea to bring in a new quarterback to change the pace of the game with a running threat at qb, but I don't think that is a role for flynn. Flynn has pretty good speed, ok quickness, and pretty good arm strength. He doesnt really do anything great he just makes good decisions. IMO I would love to see Perrillioux come in for one series a game to bring versatility to qb like Shockley did at UGA for a couple of years. Shockley then came into his senior season with great experience. I understand that Perrilioux has never even taken a snap, he could be overrated, but nobody can deny that this guy is extremely athletic. Flynn is right now an overall better qb no doubt, but I am just saying to bring in RP for one series and see what he can do. In my perfect world Flynn would transfer and JR and RP would be the future at qb's and RP would just be a beast when he takes over as the starter when JR leaves. I just love the idea of that.
     
  3. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    LSU has a bevy of top-flight receivers and some fine running backs. We do not need a running quarterback at LSU. We need a QB that can throw the football long, medium, and short . . . all day long and all season long. A quarterback who can thread the needle or patiently wait for a receiver to come open and not get happy feet.

    If a QB is a fine passer and has some scrambling ability that saves us sacks, great, it is icing on the cake. But a quarterback whose best skill is his running ability is not going to be the starter at LSU in 2006.

    All three QB's can throw and I don't see Jimbo calling many quarterback runs.
     
  4. TigerBait3

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    Oh God, I now going to revert back to my "Marcus Randle at Auburn QB draw nightmares."
     
  5. Ch0sn0ne

    Ch0sn0ne At the Track

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    This is why I think Perriloux should be playing more than Flynn this year. Not nessacarily at QB all the time, but getting the occasional direct snap that he has a pass run option out of. We did this with Skylar from time to time, and with Jerel Myers before that. Difference is teams will have to respect the pass out of the formation much more than before. Plus it would freak out the DC's having to defend againt both possibilities with him and JR on the field at the same time. Perriloux would then get some PT and keep him content by contributing in other ways, and you still have Flynn as your #2 guy if needed.

    Of course, this is PS2 thinking, because it won't happen much if ever at all.
     
  6. CParso

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    Flynn is actually faster than Perrilloux by the way, but Perrilloux has the elusiveness necessary in a running QB. I'm curious how much Miles will utilize his running ability once we finally see him behind center as our starter (in a year or 2). For him to switch his commitment from Texas to LSU, we had to have told him we plan on allowing him to use his legs. But I think they've limited how much he's run in practice, presumably to develop his arm & ability to read a defense.

    They seemed pretty even during Spring drills to me. Flynn has the upper hand with experience obviously, but I think all 3 QBs are pretty dang close to each other in terms of ability to be our starter. It's the small things that seperate them.

    No need for Flynn to transfer for your perfect world - he could just be 2nd string. My ideal scenario would be JaMarcus having a great year & going pro after this year, then Flynn having a great year & going pro, and then Perrilloux being our starter for another year or two.
     
  7. Contained Chaos

    Contained Chaos Don't we all?

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    Not true. There have been numerous reports (pretty credible ones, at that) saying that Flynn was the no. 2 guy (behind Randall) heading into the '04 season...mainly because JR was essentially clueless to the system. He had evidently not done much at all in the way of studying the playbook, etc. But Flynn was said to have suffered an injury late in summer practice heading into the season.

    Russell making better reads...that's amusing.:hihi:
     
  8. CParso

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    The only credible reports I heard were that the two were in a dead heat with Flynn having the advantage on the playbook but JaMarcus having the physical advantage until Flynn was sidelined with a shoulder injury. His injury wasn't for that long (about a month I believe) and came after a redshirt year - not to mention that there was never a starting QB throughout the season giving him the opportunity to retake his spot, so it shouldn't have been enough for JaMarcus to surpass him & stay above him on the depth chart.

    Also, we saw Flynn in the Capital One Bowl... remember how amazing he looked then?
     
  9. Contained Chaos

    Contained Chaos Don't we all?

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    So you heard basically the same thing that I did...that Flynn would have been the backup in the '04 season. What was that you said about 'reads?' That's not to mention the fact that 'two coaching staffs' didn't come to the conclusion. Remember, we've had the same OC since Saban was here.

    Funny how you give people a hard time for making a judgement of Flynn after one game, yet you condemn him for one (or was it two?) series. Make up your mind...
     
  10. CParso

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    I heard, just like I presume almost everyone else did, that Flynn was further along in the playbook before the injury. That is not to say that he was above JaMarcus on the depth chart.

    that JaMarcus makes them better, or atleast relatively equally to Flynn.

    There were 2 years of QB controversy (this will be the third, atleast in some people's minds). JaMarcus won both of those, and he'll win this one too. There were two seperate head coaches that had to agree to JaMarcus being the starter, even if the OC was the same the whole time.

    We've seen very little of Flynn. People think he's great based on one game (where he completed a mere 13 passes & faced a team that layed down for us, and was supported by a hell of an outstanding Oline & rushing attack). Since we have so little to judge him on, I like to point out that it isn't all high points with record. I've never condemned him. I think he's a very good QB, but he's not what some fans think he is. What they saw was an illusion.
     

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