Jamarcus Russell Timing

I have no idea what point you were trying to make by this post other than the fact that you are swimming upstream(against the facts) in trying to back up your very weak argument.

 

But don't you know it's "Bash JR hour/day/week/month/year" for some people on this site???

Doesn't matter who the hell we have at QB...seems that as long as he's not 30 for 30 with 500 yards and 8 TD passes for the game, some people just won't be happy--or can't go a week without bashing the QB play......all by a guy that's ranked pretty freak'n high in the nation in passing efficiency.

 

JR is not perfect and I just have a couple of complaints that become more apparent against high quality teams like Auburn.

Basically what I see in these big games he tries to guide the ball to the WR's and doesn't throw it hard enough but floats it and even when he had time in the pocket in the Auburn game he didn't step into the throws like normal and the pass ends up floating a bit or isn't long enough.

Yes he could learn to read defense a little better and check off WR's when the play starts instead of staring one down, but many QB's do that, and he could disguise hand-offs better also.

Those are 3 things that he needs to work on, and I think with a better QB coach he could develop faster in those areas. But with that said, I don't know if there are many QB's in the NCAA I would take before him. He is by far the most accurate long passer in the NCAA and has the strongest arm. I'm pleased with his performance even though there have been some errors in the Auburn game.

I would take JR over Ainge, Leak, Quinn, Booty, Colt, and maybe even Troy Smith. Perfect...no, but he is damn good and if he improves in the areas mentioned above he will be absolutely awesome.

 

actually I am in agreement with Co rampant. The defense read is the most important, for obvious reasons. Recievers can and do adjust to slightly off balls. As is expected.

On the bashing thing, I can't speak for others but what I posted was criticism, not bashing. There's a difference. If you cant stand it, don't read it. Not trying to be a smart azz but truthfully, If you feel the points I made in the earlier post are personal you're wrong. I was just giving my opinion on his playing ability. It may not agree with yours.

I posted some good things about him too. He has great ability to Improvise, a good QB quality. He has an amazing arm, another plus. No I don't think he is "terrible" or anything like that.

I know there are people here who call some of the guys on TV "idiots" one week for not picking LSU or "bashing" LSU and the next week they are amazingly deemed "genius" when they pick LSU to win. So which is it? genius or dumbazz? One week to the other. Some of us need thicker skin it would appear.

There will always be those that don't want to hear anything negative about their starting QB, their Fav player or about HIS/HER team.

Criticism is not necessarily a measure of loyalty or show lack of support.

There will always be those that see positive as well as negative.

However, Most people can discuss a player's good points and bad points without getting all upset about it.
Football is like politics, people have opinions and when one doesn't match another's there is friction.

no big deal, I'm still an LSU fan. We can agree to disagree and still be LSU fans. :thumb:

 

I forgot about him. You could be right. I reserve the right to GLADLY eat my words if JR turns out to be a Jim Dandy.... this year or next.

 

could be premature, you're right. I just expect more from him because he was so highly touted and because I really WANT to have that great QB from LSU at LSU and the NFL. I'm selfish like that I want the absolute best for LSU.... a hiesman every year if possible.

yes that is true.

yes he has improved, somewhat less than I had hoped but yeah I think he has improved.

Although it would be nice to have a Hiesman QB, we actually don't need one, you're right about that. He is getting the job "done" so to speak. Again that is a relative term. However, IF he were just a TAD better at game management and ...reading the D...... MAYBE just maybe.... well I wont go into that because
You know if IFs and Buts were candy and nuts we'd all have a Merry Christmas.

The old " no one is perfect adage" absolutely true. You're right. Cant argue. We can't use that as an excuse to not aspire to doing better though.

yes you're right again and I can definately hope you are right about JR. he certainly has the potential.

 

You're original post,

The offensive guys I mentioned played in conferences that were "less than stellar" so to speak. The same as you alluded to the PAC 10 ....................yet those players I mentioned were still considered tops in their position and proved it in the NFL.

In other words, that old saying about how it is hard to soar like an eagle if you are surrounded by turkeys isn't necessarily true.

Just because a QB does great in the Pac 10 doesn't mean he would be "awful" in the SEC. True he might do worse agaisnt the SEC but he may actually BE THAT good.

let me rephrase that:
While I agree with you the best defense may be "sorry" in said league, that doesn't always mean the talent is less on the offensive side. They could be but it doesn't mean they ARE.

for all the criticism the board threw at USC the year they played OU for the BCS trophy...... ANY SEC team would have had a tough time beating them if at all, even though the PAC 10 does seem to be a weak conference. IMHO. AND I have no love for USC trust me.

 

Old Tom makes mistakes but he isn't considered one of the all time greats yet. Or has he? I guess that's a matter of opinion too...

NONE of the "great" QB's in the NFL were perfect. no one is. as you pointed out....but if JR is to be ONE of those considered a great Qb later in his career, he'll have to get his head in the game.

Great Qb's dictate how the play will go.

JR is still playing reaction ball, he reacts to what happens. His arm bails him out...... That's not a bad thing, it's a progression the next step should be coming......