Not every criminal gang in the islamic world is our enemy. It is vital that we remember this. Only Al Qaida has taken on America directly. The PLO and Hamas are focused entirely on Israel. Islamic Jihad is focused on Israel. In fact when the former Islamic Jihad leader, Ayman Al Zawahiri, chose to join Osama bin Ladin to become #2, it caused a split in Islamic Jihad, most of whom thought that fighting America was not their fight!. Hezbollah is focused against Israel and against Lebanese Christians and Sunnis. When Hezbollah killed Americans in 1983, it was against armed Marines on their turf. They did not attack our civilians where we live. I'm not saying that these groups are harmless, they are terrorists and kill women and childen, they scuttle all chances of treaty, and they are clear criminals. But they are Israel's enemies and Israel must handle them. We are a superpower and we have bigger responsibilities. There is no one else to deal with the proliferation of nuclear-armed rogue states. Hezbollah and Hamas are piss-ant problems compared to North Korea and Iran. And we still have not destroyed Al Qaida, which is indefensible. Osama has been hiding in Pakistan for 5 years now, plotting his next attack against America. Pakistan must either give him up or allow us to go in and get him. Going after Hezbollah directly would be another distraction from our more vital threats. But impending sanctions against Iran may give Israel even more indirect help by making it possible to stop arms shipments to Hezbollah.
red, hezbollah has more active cells withing the us borders and more prepared to attack on our turf than does al qaeda. overlooking one problem for another does not solve anything. obviously you're aware they are just a proxy for iran and syria but i think you're undestating their potential. its this type of passiveness that leads to events such as 9/11 and i dont care to relive that anytime soon if it can be avoided.
But by that thinking it was wrong of use to go to the aid of Europe and take out Hitler. We should have just destroyed Japan and then be done with it. Just because someone or some group is not focused on us at the moment does not mean that they are not our enemy. Who is to say that if they were able to destroy Israel they would turn the collective energy towards us.
This makes no sense at all, amigo. An analogy to what I'm saying would have been for us to make war on fascist guerrilla groups in Algeria and ignore the far greater threats of Germany and Japan. Hezbollah will destroy Israel when hell freezes over and martin gets religion. Look, what I'm saying here is that we clearly have bigger problems than Hezbollah right now. Do you understand? I realize that Hezbollah is not our friend. But Hezbollah is Israel's problem, not ours, and Israel is handling it just fine. If tirk was right and Hezbollah has cells all over America, then we should go after them hard, but there is no evidence of that that I'm aware of and they surely haven't hit us here. If they "turn their collective energy towards us" we can deal with it, but it makes no sense to go off half-cocked because of an unjustified fear they they might do something bad someday. That's the crap that got us mired in Iraq while Osama still runs free and Kim threatens us with nukes. Hezbollah ain't hurting us and they've got nothing we need. We are arming our side and Iran is arming Hezbollah. Who do you think is going to win this one? Israel is going to handle Hezbollah. They can handle Syria, too. And if Iran gets involved . . . THEN the US might intervene. It would give us an excuse to blockade Iran. Without oil money Iran is toothless and their expensive nuclear program is history.
of course. for some reason american christians like the dirty dirty jews, even though they are going straight to hell for denying jesus. in general i think we should let everyone else in the world kill each other all they want, even if they are white. in this case, i say let em die. i actually agree with the terrorists when they yell at us for siding with israel, we shouldnt do that. the only country besides ourselves really worth fighting for is britain, because they are a true and loyal friend, and they are not involved in some jew/israeli/palestine holy land zionism eternal war BS.
I asked this because you brought up the fact that we should only deal with the groups responsible for 9-11. I can asure you they are here in Texas and Louisiana. Not gonna give out specfic details, but there is a sort of training we have to go through that gives us locations of certain cells within the area. I do understand what you are saying that right now this is not our fight, but the original question that I asked was " What if Iran or Syria gets invovled" Which you say if Iran does then we will react.
It is precisely that kind of mindless hatred that has caused the current problems in the Middle East.
exactly the opposite is true. if i lived in the middle east, i would have no loyalty to either side or any holy land, and i would forget the whole thing and leave. conflict over. if they thought like i do instead of acting like cavemen, war would end. it is because people needlessly identify themselves with their ethnic/religious tribes that the wars continue. when people grow up and start acting like rational individuals, these sorts of conflicts will end. if i were an israeli citizen, i would move away and live somewhere else, as i would not want to live in a nation of jews with a religious symbol on their flag. that is asking for trouble. if america put a cross on our flag, i would hope america was destroyed too. as long as there are muslims and jews, they will fight in the middle east. the only hope is that religious people all kill each other and give up, or people stop brainwashing each other with this nonsense. the whole idea of the existence of a person who identifies himself as a jew or muslim is ridiculous. answer this: who owns the holy land? are the jews god's chosen people like they say? or does that land belong to the muslims? what does god say? do you see how stupid that question is? it cannot be answered, and that is why they fight. more dead religious morons is good in my book. it isnt my mentality that causes violence, it is lack of it. i favor taking no side and not getting involved in pointless fights.
