Israel Declares War

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  1. LsuCraig

    LsuCraig Founding Member

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    Bingo. Americans, including myself in many instances, have had so much safety, stability and wealth for so long, that we can build ourselves little cocoons. And in those little cocoons we can build any reality we want......mainly false realities. Realities that lead us to believe that if we leave everyone else alone, they'll have the same stability and safety we have. An alternative reality that leads people to believe that America is the problem....not the solution. An alternative reality that leads people to believe that they are really helping our country and the world by holding anti-war rallies........picketing at soldiers' funerals.....realities that give them too much time for BS.

    That's why it will take a monumental event on a much grander scale that 9/11 for us as a nation to be united against a common enemy. To where these wussie, Vietnam era rejects will be silenced and we can actually engage the enemy and defeat them.
     
  2. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Soft Americans did not plan, design, and execute this war, the Bush administration did. I take it you think this guy is infallible and that things are going just fine in Iraq? Or perhaps you think he gets a pass about standing up and being responsible for his actions? In World War II we fought a smart war with all our allies against the right enemy and with full public support. We won that war and Harry Truman said "The buck stops here".

    Well, Bush's war is a blunder and a fiasco and he and his apologists blame "the media", "soft Americans", and anybody but the man in charge--the man who is responsible. History will hold him reponsible as it did Lyndon Johnson.

    Point well taken. I was speaking for myself, of course. I used the collective "we" to indicate the majority of the citizens, of which I am part, no longer trust this guy. I realize you do.

    I will drop the subject, I did not intend to derail the Israel thread.
     
  3. TigerWins

    TigerWins Founding Member

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    Bush didn't plan, design, and execute this Israel/Hezbollah conflict. Most Americans supported Israel when this started, but you are starting to see that support disappear as they see the death and destruction on TV.

    Many want Bush to call for a cease-fire ... to negotiate with terrorists. More and more Amercians are using phrases like "disproportionate response" and "indiscriminate bombing" to describe what Israel is doing.

    Yeah, wussies is the right word to describe those poeple....
     
  4. LsuCraig

    LsuCraig Founding Member

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    You didn't hear TigerWins? Bush is responsible for Hezbollah. Bush is responsible for Hamas. Bush and Cheny and Halliburton actually have launched rockets into Israel so that they could start a mid-east war.

    It's also Bush's fault that Clinton gave nuclear materials to N. Korea to make bombs. Global warming is Bush's fault, 9/11 is Bush's fault, Bush made Christie Brinkley's husband cheat on her, Cheney is the culprit behind these serial killings in Arizona though. Bush has no knowledge of that.

    Remember....people build alternative realities to explain problems that their hippie minds can't solve with holding hands and smoking pot.
     
  5. LSUfan71

    LSUfan71 Founding Member

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    Bush accomplished what he set out to do. "His" war was successful, that part is finished. It's not fair to blame Bush for the insurgency, no one could have foreseen it. What problems are there in Iraq that are not caused by the insurgency?

    Islamic radicals say they're fightin to get Americans out of Iraq. They say they fight Israeli for Palestinian rights. It's all BS, they only want to destroy Israel and kill Americans. Israel was gonna give the Palestinians all they wanted, then they backed off because they were gonna lose the smokescreen they use to "justify" the violence.

    The morons keep attacking our soldiers in Iraq because they want the Americans "out". It's BS, if it were true then all they have to do is stop and our boys are home for Labor Day. Our liberal morons here at home know it too but they ignore it so they can bash Bush.

    There is nothing political about the mideast situation. It's religious: Islam dictates that Israel is to be destroyed and the U.S. stands in the way, only the ignorant believe otherwise.
     
  6. saltyone

    saltyone So Mote It Be

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    I'd give you green, if I could, LSUfan71. You'll just have to be happy with this...:D :thumb:
     
  7. Sourdoughman

    Sourdoughman TigerFan of LSU and the Tigerman

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    Great post.
    I would also like to add that I have to laugh when I hear the media and Democrats and others cry about how absent the Bush Administration has been on the subject of Isreal and Lebanon.
    I just want to point out that the Clinton administration did just the opposite and where did it get us? (oslo accord)
    We've already tried ceasefires and negotiating with these people and it don't work.
    How do you negotiate with people who already say they want to kill Americans and Isrealis?
    What will diplomacy actually accomplish? I think it will only delay WWIII.

    I've also heard some say that they want a ceasefire, they want to negotiate
    with people who want to kill Americans and Isrealis.
    It proves that this is why democrats just aren't electable today.
    Keep in mind, if we negotiate with these terrorists they win.
    I'm all for WWIII now, it's kill or be killed the way I see it.
    Its high time we bombed, took out Iran and Syria, make their cities look like
    parking lots, to hell with what the world or anyone thinks.
    That is a true war on terrorism.
     
  8. LSUfan71

    LSUfan71 Founding Member

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    Right, as soon as we start treating the terrorists as a legitimate political oranization is the day they win. I say bomb 'em all and take the oil, I'm itchin to trade in my Toyota towards an Expedition.
     
  9. LsuCraig

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    Now this columnist has a good idea of the big picture of what the US invading Iraq has meant for the region.

    http://opinionjournal.com/federation/feature/?id=110008702

    The "big bang," as invading Iraq has sometimes been called, was meant to reorder the nature of politics in the region. This has been accomplished in a fundamental way. The idea of dividing an enemy force into its constituent parts and then dealing with it piecemeal is at least as old as Caesar's actions in Gaul. It applies no less to U.S. strategy in the Middle East. Every faction there has been made to reconsider its relationship with every other. Rather than there being a monolithic clash of civilizations, thus far the U.S. is dealing with the area in pieces--in whatever way it sees fit to do so--whether making it tacitly clear to Syria that what happened in Iraq could more easily happen to it, or threatening Iran on behalf of the region and world, or seeking cooperation with the Saudis in hunting down al Qaeda.
     
  10. tirk

    tirk im the lyrical jessie james

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    good article. i think what i said earlier in this thread, that the dynamics in play where the moderate arab nations and the superpowers being on the same side offer a unique situation that we may never be afforded again in our lifetime. now if we can only take advantage of it since the window of opportunity may be very small.

    i read the other day saddam was on a hunger strike. i wonder why the press hasnt covered it.
     

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