If hezbollah is here and plotting against us then they should be eliminated immediately and ruthlessly. My point was that Hezbollah in Lebanon is Israel's enemy and doesn't require US intervention. A couple of questions do beg to be asked about Hezbollah in the US: 1. If the FBI knows all about these Hezbollah cells, then why havent they been taken down? Are they just estimating? 2. Are they sleeper cells plotting against the US or are they working against Israelis in America? (fund raising, espionage, money laundering, smuggling, etc.) 3. Why haven't they attacked us here if they are bigger and richer than Al Qaida? Is it possible that their agenda is not the same as Al Qaida? I have been Googling for Hezbollah in America and I find a lot of references that Hezbollah is believed to be operating in America, but no evidence of any cells being rounded up.
Tirk's right. The prez of Iran 2 days ago said if Israel does not stop their war on Hezbollah, then Iran will activate it's Hezbollah cells around the world.....including the US. Or is this another bold statement from this kook that we just ignore?
You aren't paying attention to me. Sure all these guys hate us, we ain't too crazy about them either. If you are saying that "hate" equals "enemy", then the whole world is at war with each other and practically everybody is our enemy. Let me be specific about my definitions. We were talking about taking military action. Enemy, in this case, means those islamists that take military action against us, like Al Qaida. Why should we take on Hamas when their military enemy is Israel? So they hate us. Big deal, sticks and stones, man. But Israel is who they are hitting, so we arm Israel to the teeth and they take care of it. Do we make war on the IRA because they attack Britain? Or on the Moro guerrillas in the Phiilipines? Or the islamic rebels in Indonesia and Ceylon? Those folks may hate us too, but they are not warring on us. So we deal with it the way we always have--we heavily arm our allies to take care of their local problems. It's their turf and that's the way they want it anyway. If their local enemies hate us for it and complain loudly, let them blow smoke. If they foolishly escalate into attacks on America, they will get the Afghanistan treatment and most do not want that at all. Al Qaida has been stupid enough to take on America directly and they quickly lost their home base in Afghanistan, had international assets frozen, and are on the run until they die. Not all of the islamists are that dumb, they have their own local wars to fight and the last thing in the world they want is to give America an excuse to pull an Afghnaistan on them. Oh, they will talk big and make the usual boasts, but so far they haven't had the stones to take us on and are probably smart enough not to. So . . . just so you get it straight. When I say Hama and Hezbollah are Israel's enemies doesn't mean they are "our pals" or "allies". That is foolishness. It just means Israel kicks them unless they are stupid enough to take on America and get the full treatment. Not every problem has a military solution. Some can only be solved by diplomatic and economic leverage, subtle and overt coercion, political blackmail, and other tools at our disposal. Remember we defeated a cold war superpower without firing a shot by patiently ruining them economically. Letting Israel do its own dirty work lets us keep all of our options open.
I'm paying attention. You're not reading my posts dude. I never said for the US to put troops on the ground down there to stop the friggin' PLO. Israel can handle that. But to compare the IRA to Hezbellah or Hamas is a joke. Terrorist states such as Iran and Syria are supplying Hamas and these other groups. Not the same thing. And yes, terrorist organizations are our enemy.
Well LC, I kind of think we do. It's a blind threat. If he actually has the capacity to attack us via Hezbollah, why threaten us or warn us? Worse, if Hezbollah actually were to attack America it would be seen as having a return address from Tehran, who could expect the full military wrath of the United States of America in short order. It's just rhetoric to inflame his illiterate islamic constituancy in Iran. Are you building a bomb shelter? Honestly, do you really feel threatened by this kook who has already made a number of bizarre and inflammatory statements, none of which he has carried out. Incidently, do you have a link to this statement about Amadineijad activating Iran's Hezbollah cells? I can't find it and it would be remarkable for him to state that he controls Hezbollah.
He said if Israel doesn't "wrap it up" soon, Hezbollah would activate it's cells around the world....including inside the US. It's not a shock that Iran gives Hezbollah their ammunitions and money. Those were Iranian missiles that hit the Israeli ship. Anyway, I'll find the link I read it on. It was a link off of Drudge over the weekend.
i think it was more of a statement that al qaeda was severely weakened more than the other being a huge threat. though, 12-15 states or whatever with active members was surprising. then again, maybe 2 or 3 targeted members of the group within a state may be considered a cell to the feds. no way for us to know exact numbers without an official release. It does make me wonder as I have most everyday since 9/11 how we arent having commercial planes shot down with simple shoulder rockets on a somewhat regular basis. certainly security isnt good enough to prevent this if anyone wanted to badly enough and they certainly cant be too hard to smuggle in a regular sized suitcase. I suppose for the reasons you mentioned above. there would be so much hell to pay, manhattan project II would quickly be in the works by spielberg.
more info to help answer a few questions for red and myself: http://www.penraker.com/archives/004213.html
