So what you're saying BB is ... it's not what you know (LSU or Harvard degree) ... but who you bleaux (LSU or Harvard degree) And, what you're saying camo is A) you want the whole enchilada B) you're not a fan
I started at LSU in 1991 and went for a few years and now I'm back to finish my degree. I have noticed a serious change at LSU. The students in general seem to be more serious, The classrooms have gotten better and it seems the test are harder. This might all just be a matter of perspective but that is how it appears. On a side note, I spent two years working at Los Alamos National Laboratory with some of the most intelligent individuals in the world. Believe it or not there were very few Ivy Leaguers. Most of the scientist went to schools like M.I.T. or Georgia Tech. Surprisingly there were quite a few SEC grads including a couple from LSU. Some of the really old timers (Manhatten Project) didn't even have real college degrees, just honorary ones bestowed upon them by universities.
College Rankings College rankings are a questionable proposition at best. LSU always gets beaten up because it has a low graduation rate among all students. However, since it is a public university, LSU has to admit a wider variety of students than a typical private school, like Tulane. Thus a low graduation rate means that LSU students have had to get through some tough courses to graduate. Courses that the average Louisisana HS grad couldn't pass. So in effect, the teaching is tough, kids who apply themselves learn a lot, but LSU is ranked lower because of it. Makes no sense to me. The best way to look at college is to look at the accomplishments of the graduates in the particular fields you are looking at. For example, I have a son who wants to be a falconer. Obviously, LSU would be the wrong place for him, since LSU has no undergraduate bird study curriculum. At one time, Auburn would have been a good choice, but with the problems they're having, especially the Raptor Center, he may do better looking somewhere else. LSU has plenty of fine programs. Once you get in the door in business, no-one cares where you went to school. The only exception I can think of is political lobbying, where the class ring makes you connections. Who wants to do that anyway?
LSU is both a Land-Grant and a Sea-Grant institution, one of only 26 colleges with this status. LSU is rated an Research Institute I by the Carniegie Institute, placing it in the top 2% of American Universities. LSU will never have the state support, alumni base, or cash endowment of Texas or North Carolina, which is its only limiting factor. LSU competes sucessfully with any state universitiy in all areas.
For those wanting a comparison between LSU and Ivy League schools, I can give one. I graduated from LSU a year and a half ago. My majors were philosophy and history. I'm now in graduate school at Princeton, which allows me to take undergraduate courses at the university, so long as I do an additional project not required of the undergraduate students. This semester I am taking a class on Aristotle. The professor is a guest professor from Oxford. So far, the material we have covered is the exact same material we covered in a class on the same subject I took at LSU. I would not say the professor is any better than the one I had at LSU (though, the prof. who taught me Aristotle at LSU was one of the better profs I had there). I took Greek at both schools, and the Greek professor here was inordinately better than the one at LSU. So consistency with getting good professors is one difference between the two schools. The expected workload is almost the same. Here they expect you to complete all the work, whereas at LSU you could get by without reading all the material. It is much harder to get an A here than at LSU. Getting a B, though, is not very hard at all. The average student here is much smarter than the average student at LSU. The intelligence of the students, as we all know, does not reflect how good a university is. Princeton students arrive here smarter. If the same student started at LSU and wanted to get an education, I do not doubt that the education he or she received at the end of four years would differ very much from the education offered at Princeton. I applied to three colleges six years ago: LSU, Tulane, and Princeton. I was accepted at all three, and offered full scholarships to the first two. My dad, who is a professor, gave me excellent advice when making my decision. He said don't worry about reputations right now. You can get the same education at any of these three so long as you want one. I chose LSU and have never regretted the decision.
LSU's chemical and petroleum engineering programs rank in the Top 5 in the SouthEast (Texas to the East Coast). LSU is the only school in the country with a graduate program in Mass Comm. What makes the university top-tier is not how much cash it gets from the state, but the type and quantity of research grants awarded to academia at the institution. And of course, a football team playing for the MNC.
I worked in corporate recruiting many years ago and I found there were four “categories” employers divided applicant's degrees into: 1) Ivy plus (all Ivies and MIT, Chicago, Northwestern, Duke, Rice, Standford) 2) Other privates & major public - The University of… and … State University (you can include Rutgers, Clemson, A&M, etc.) 3) State universities - directional colleges (ULL, ULM, Houston, Southern Miss.) 4) Community colleges An employer isn’t going to evaluate whether LSU is better than UCLA. Most know that Virginia, Texas, Cal and Michigan are a little better but that won’t be a deciding factor, a #2 is a #2.
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My father is like that. He got involved in computer back in the 70's so there wasn't much in the way of a college program for computer then. If someone were to enter his job now days you would have to go to college no doubt and you may would want some kind of graduate degree too.
