News Is coronavirus a wild card?

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  1. Bengal B

    Bengal B Founding Member

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    His response of "Don't tell me what to do." was that of a petulant crybaby.
     
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    COTiger 2010 Bowl Pick 'Em Champ

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    Or his bullshit. IconLOL.gif
     
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  3. Jmg

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    this quote is stupid. what does that mean they "deserve?" if, for example, the chinese give up liberty because they dont care about it, they now deserve to be unsafe? why? do we now need to appoint a commision to go terrorize them just to be fair and give peolpe what they deserve?
     
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  4. Bengal B

    Bengal B Founding Member

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    The principle is that nobody gives a shit if pride is endangering his own life but he has no right to walk around endangering the lives of others.
     
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    what is the objective of the stay at home orders? To flatten the curve? If so we’re there or very close to there

    unfortunately, the goal now seems to make sure no one gets sick.... an impossible task

    throw in the briefings on a state level becoming more and more vague and you have the recipe for problems. ...

    especially when everyone at home is now an expert in the law and medicine trained by fox, msnbc, and cnn
     
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    COTiger 2010 Bowl Pick 'Em Champ

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    You could count the experts trained by them on one finger.
     
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    I know a lot of you guys worship Trump, so I let 99.99999% go, but. . . .

    PLEASE DONT INJECT DISINFECTANT OR INTRODUCE U/V LIGHT SOURCES INTO YOUR BODY.

    Good God!!!
     
  8. Bengal B

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    WTF. Is that happening in Florida?
     
  9. HalloweenRun

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    No, at today’s Press Conference, The President of the United States asked if you could kill Coronavirus by injecting disinfectant into the body! Same for putting a light in the body. Context: some guy came on and talked about their studies in killing the virus. Trump took it from there.
     
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    I figured you would have understood the context behind it from the time frame of the quote and understand the principle behind it today.

    Lets recap:

    "If we are thus to be driven from Bill to Bill, without one solid reason afforded us; and can raise no Money for the King’s Service, and relief or security of our country, till we fortunately hit on the only Bill the Governor is allowed to pass, or till we consent to make such as the Governor or Proprietaries direct us to make, we see little use of Assemblies in this Particular; and think we might as well leave it to the Governor or Proprietaries to make for us what Supply Laws they please, and save ourselves and the Country the Expense and Trouble, All debates and all reasonings are vain, where Proprietary Instructions, just or unjust, right or wrong, must inviolably be observed. We have only to find out, if we can, what they are, and then submit and obey. But surely the Proprietaries conduct, whether as Fathers of their Country, or Subjects to their King, must appear extraordinary, when it is considered that they have not only formally refused to bear any art of our yearly heavy expences in cultivating and maintaining friendship with the Indians, tho’ they reap such immense Advantages by that friendship; but they now, by their Lieutenant, refuse to contribute any Part towards resisting an Invasion of the King’s Colony, committed to their care; or to submit Claim of Exemption to the Decision of their Sovereign.

    In fine, we have the most sensible Concern for the poor distressed Inhabitants of the Frontiers. We have taken every Step in our Power, consistent with the just Rights of the Freemen of Pennsylvania, for their Relief, and we have Reason to believe, that in the Midst of their Distresses they themselves do not wish us to go farther. Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. Such as were inclined to defend themselves, but unable to purchase Arms and Ammunition, have, as we are informed, been supplied with both, as far as Arms could be procured, out of Monies given by the last Assembly for the King’s Use; and the large Supply of Money offered by this Bill, might enable the Governor to do every Thing else that should be judged necessary for their farther Security, if he shall think fit to accept it. Whether he could, as he supposes, “if his Hands had been properly strengthened, have put the Province into such a Posture of Defence, as might have prevented the present Mischiefs,” seems to us uncertain; since late Experience in our neighbouring Colony of Virginia (which had every Advantage for that Purpose that could be desired) shows clearly, that it is next to impossible to guard effectually an extended Frontier, settled by scattered single Families at two or three Miles Distance, so as to secure them from the insiduous Attacks of small Parties of skulking Murderers: But thus much is certain, that by refusing our Bills from Time to Time, by which great Sums were seasonably offered, he has rejected all the Strength that Money could afford him; and if his Hands are still weak or unable, he ought only to blame himself, or those who have tied them."


    It is my belief and understanding that the principle behind this was for those men to freely defend themselves as apposed to the protection of the "King".

    At the time, Pennsylvania was under constant attack by the Indians. They were trying to pass a bill to allow of the purchase and provisions of ammunition and supplies (a new TAX), however as I understood the context, the governor would not sign the bill unless the proprietor (who lived in England) estate was exempt.

    In this case, people where dying so the nobles could ensure their wealth.

    The true meaning, as I believe, is are you someone who rely's on yourself or the government? It is as simple as that.

    The more we give up to make us feel like we have a little more security, the less secure we really are.

    You mention China. What they deserve is irrelevant given the context Franklin used here. He was talking about a specific event.

    I am not sure what you mean about us having to appoint anything for them.

    Today it can be a mandatory mask for the "safety" of all. In 20 years it could be the 2nd amendment for the safety of all.

    We see this for what it really is. Just look at congress. Money is just the tool of power.
     
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