Is Bush the worst President in history?

"What did we go to war for if not to protect our property." --US Senator Robert Hunter of Virginia, when the issue of whether southern black slaves should be offered their freedom to bear arms in the Southern armies--at the end of the war, when it was clear the South would lose, Confederate General Patrick Claiborne naively suggested that black slaves be offered freedom fill the depleted Confederate ranks.

 

Here's a quote selected just for you:

 

Here is another goodie, also in response to the debate in the South over whether blacks should be offered freedom to fight for the South. This is from a North Carolina newspaper in 1865:

"....it is abolition doctrine....the very doctrine which the war was commenced to put down."

 

Look, I am not unsympathetic to the South's plight. Although virtually all southern whites were violently opposed to ending slavery, many of them were aware that the South was falling badly behind the North in industrial development, in railroad mileage, and in population. They realized the slavery must be the cause of it.

But politically there was no way out of it. There were 9 million southern whites when the war started and 4 million black slaves.

If slaves were freed and given full voting rights, they would have controlled Mississippi and South Carolina's govts. They may have controlled Louisiana and Alabama's govts.

There was no solution, short of war, to end it.

 

You know, to show how ignorant some of these people are about this issue, I have repeatedly referred to The Civil War, or The War Between the States, or The War for Southern Independence, or whatever you call it, as "The War of the Rebellion," and and apparently the opposition doesn't even know that they should be insulted by that name.

Did you know that officially, according the the Federal Govt, that is what the Civil War is called, "The War of the Rebellion?"

During WWII there were many fistfights between southern recruits and northern ones over what to actually call the Civil War.

You people defending the South and claiming that slavery had nothing to do with the start of it, should be referring to it as, "The War Between the States." Anything other than that should start a vigorous defense by you.

Southerners took offense to calling it "The Civil War" and were expected to square off at the mention of "The War of the Rebellion." Just another history lesson you get from me.

Aren't you glad I post here? LOL

 

I have one simple question for you CB: Why was it right for the American colonies to secede from Great Britain and form their own country but it was wrong for the south to secede from the north and start their own nation?

I only ask this because no matter what else i do you aren't going to change your opinion about the reasons for the war, so i will ask you this based on precedent, as liberals are so fond of, and just wonder why the Declaration of Independence was good enough for the founding Fathers but apparently good 'ole abe Lincoln felt that the Declaration of Ind. had no merit.

 

CB I personally enjoy all the post. There are many different opinions to all issues. I may not agree with you but it is interesting to here from people like you.

No matter how wrong you are. Keep up the good work and when you go to sleep tonight remember

South 0
North 1
Halftime

 

I wouldn't exactly call it halftime because the south will never try to secede again, because the federal government has become too strong and the liberal court system would rule it unconstitutional. Am i upset that the south was never able to secede peacefully, yes. Am I going to bemoan my fate because that never happened, no, because I love my country to much to be sad that the Confederacy was never allowed to come to fruition, oh well.

 

Yeah I just threw that in cause I thought it was a cute bumper sticker I saw in Fla. It get the yanks I work with in wad.

Kinda wonder what the world would be like if things had worked differently. But if didn't so Geaux Tigers

 

Yea i understand about getting the Yanks in a wad. My dad is from New Jersey, only 15 minutes outside of NYC, and we always argue about whether the south was right or not. I don't really care, I just bring it up because i like to argue and make people look stupid.