Iranian Leader Calls Holocaust "Myth"

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  1. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    This is exactly the way I feel about the Iraqis, Salty. Exactly the same! These people have hated each other for millenia and only Saddam's iron boot kept a lid on it. There is going to be a civil war in Iraq and there is nothing we can do about it. The Kurds, the Sunnis, and the Shiites are just going to have to fight this out . . . and it ain't our fight!
     
  2. Contained Chaos

    Contained Chaos Don't we all?

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    I'm assuming it wouldn't matter if you did, since you have decided that being a hypocrite is meaningless.
     
  3. LSUDeek

    LSUDeek All That She Wants...

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    Calm down there, amigo.

    Fetuses haven't committed $heinous_crime. Murderers have, by their choices, according to our legal system, voided all rights that they would and should have.
     
  4. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    i dont know what this sentence is intended to mean, but your sake i will let it slide and pretend i know what it means and i deserve it. i'm in a giving christmas mood. plus i am too lazy to try and remember whatever petty issue you are hung up on. feliz navidad!
     
  5. saltyone

    saltyone So Mote It Be

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    :rofl: That's funny red. No, I'm serious, it's funny.

    To answer your question. The child is innocent and without blame. The convicted person is guilty of a crime that he or she was well aware carried a sentence of death if committed. They chose to do it anyway and take their chances. You can make an argument against the death penalty if you want, but there is no way you can compare it to abortion. Besides a person dying, there are no other similarities.

    I would be more than happy to do away with the death penalty if it meant we could also do away with abortion. Even though the two are not the same.

    He isn't saying they are. He is just saying that since most on the left seem to need a reason, here's one for them.

    We're getting around to them. Those that threaten us as a country anyway. There is no reason to attack them all. Most keep to themselves and pose no threat to us. Iraq posed a threat. I know, I know...I'm just addressing why we don't attack some of the others.

    Neither did Afghanistan. No one ever said that Iraq declared war on us. Iraq historically harbors and trains terrorist. It is a war on terror. Not Iraq. The president clearly stated that we would hunt down and destroy terrorist no matter where they hide. And, that any country that harbored terrorist would be our enemy. I wish it was so black and white as with past conflicts. Since 9/11 we have not engaged an enemy that wore a uniform or carried a flag of another country except early on in Iraq. We are fighting an idea, a belief, not a nation.
     
  6. Contained Chaos

    Contained Chaos Don't we all?

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    But I thought murder was murder, and that it was wrong regardless of the stage of life? At least that's always the justification against abortion. Just sounds like an inconsistent thought pattern to me. Personally, I am pro-choice (although I would never have anything to do with an abortion) and pro-capital punishment. I just think that our capital punishment system needs to be a lot more expedient to be effective.
     
  7. Contained Chaos

    Contained Chaos Don't we all?

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    I'm not hung up on it. You just spent nearly an entire day one time trying to convince me that being a hypocrite was completely insignificant. So anytime you bring up hypocrisy, I will do you the service of reminding you of that fact.
     
  8. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Well, as you might expect, I'm in favor of both abortion AND execution, so I don't disagree. My point was that it's not hard to find some hypocracy in anybody's position. It ain't just the liberals.
     
  9. LSUDeek

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    Capital punishment fits no definition of murder that I am aware of. Murder is not and cannot be translated as "to kill".
     
  10. LSUDeek

    LSUDeek All That She Wants...

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    Use a different example then.
     

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