Internet Kill Switch?

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  1. JohnLSU

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    Re: Obama silencing his critics

    Again, this guy is not your hero:

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  2. LSUpathdoc

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    Again you are a retard? I'm done discussing this with someone in need of medication. You should look in to some Risperidone or perhaps some Geodon. I gave you the benefit of the doubt for a while but I see there is no use. :dis:
     
  3. Bengal Buddy

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    In 2006 a district judge declared that Bush's wiretaps were illegal. This decision was subsequently overturned. Bush claimed that they were legal because a wiretap was not required if the situation is urgent or in matters of national security. Recently a federal judge declared that wiretaps against an Islamic charity was illegal. President Obama, who is supportive of the program and has tracked suspicious communications, tried unsuccessfully to get the case blocked. It is not certain if the Justice Department will appeal this latest ruling, but the issue of whether or not the wiretaps were illegal is far from settled. I wish the JD would appeal so we can get a clear ruling from the Supreme Court.
     
  4. houtiger

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    There is no evidence to suggest that the reason for shutting down the internet is to silence anyone's critics; you just made that up. Would it be ok if Bush asked for this law?

    The reason for the law is to deal with use of the internet as a tool against the institutions and people of the US. I can see situations where it may be necessary, as I said earlier. After 9/11, the airlines industry was shut down for 3 days as was the stock market. Nobody complained, those were sane actions to deal with unknown threats. In securing america, the internet has become critical infrastructure through which we bank, trade stocks, conduct billions of dollars in commerce per day. It also provides unprecedented access to vital institutions like the Pentagon, all the biggest banks and brokerage houses. As a critical national infrastructure it needs to be protected, and institutions need to be protected from the access the internet provides to them. This law seems like a sane measure to me.

    I asked before and you did not answer, can you see no situation in which the internet could be used in serious manner against the good of the nation?
     
  5. Richdog

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    I can't. But, I don't think like a criminal. It has been used in movies though. :)
    maybe you can tell us how the internet could be used against us.
     
  6. flabengal

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    The battle has already been lost unless there was some sort of march on Washington to protest ever increasing government power, taxes, Federal Reserve policies, immigration policies, destruction of the family, etc.

    The country is basically done. The only hope is that when we come out on the other side in about 10-15 years there is something left of it to rebuild. I only hope they don't get us into a war in the meantime. I mean a big one, against someone who can defend themselves, not the third world side shows that just generate cash for the powers that be.
     
  7. martin

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    i cant imagine a scenario where this would be necessary, no.
     
  8. LSUsupaFan

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    Have you not see T3: Rise of the Machines? If the internet becomes self aware and identifies humanity as a threat it could wipe us out. Short of that I got nothing.
     
  9. houtiger

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    Then I know you are not a computer expert. I am correct, aren't I? If you are a computer expert, you could describe a few vulnerabilities that could be attacked. I work on mainframes and they are pretty secure. Unix and windows platforms have been called "distributed systems" and "open systems", and there is a reason they were called "open systems" and they are inherently more open to being hacked. Have you heard of hacking incidents? They have occurred, they still occur. The internet provides access from my PC to your "open system" for me to hack into it.

    The first, which I mentioned above before the threads were merged, is a coordinated denial of service attack against the major banks, stock trading companies, the pentagon, and major online retailers like amazon and ebay, etc. That would cost the US a lot of dollars. Go on the net and look up denial of service attack and read what it is. This is a long established technique, and has been done many times (not coordinated against many targets at once, yet). If all the attacks originated from abroad, a possible response could be to cut the telecom links from overseas to the US and let out internet continue to run clean without the rest of the world communicating with us.
     
  10. shaqazoolu

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    I have a question for you. Do you think that private companies are so irresponsible that they don't have a plan in place in the event of a data breach? Do you so quickly forget how the last few major data breaches and virus outbreaks were fairly well contained without the government's interference?

    This is a terrible idea.
     
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