Intelligent Design

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  1. martin

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    Well thank you, it's always nice to recieve a compliment. I'm gonna start posting more i've just been busy lately and since I didn't have internet over the summer I got out of the habit of posting. Now that I have the wireless router and internet setup in my apartment I'm gonna try to start posting more.
     
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    I said I opposed teaching it all along, I said it should be brought up in discussion. No one bothered to ask me what I meant, you and Red ran with it. I don't mind playing along when I have time to kill. One question though, do you oppose the very mention of creationism in the classroom (as with the statement in my previous post), or is that a satisfactory resolution in your opinion?
     
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    we disagree in the sense that i think bringing it up in science class is a bad idea, just like i think suggesting 4+1 might equal 9 in math class is pointless. even if half the people thing 4+1=9. it doesnt matter how many people believe something if it isnt science.

    it never warrants mention in science class, because it isnt science. if students ask about it, they should be directed to study creationism in their religion classes.

    i think this is a silly line you are drawing between teaching and discussing. there is no point in science classes discussing religion. i dont think it is a false parallel to compare this issue to discussing how many virgins a terrorist recieves for a suicide bombing. that is a question that a muslim scholar should discuss.

    so to more directly answer your question, yes i think the very mention of creationism by a science teacher is a pointless waste of time. mentioning creationism as a legitimate part of a scientific debate is more than a waste of time, it is a lie that kids shouldnt hear.
     
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    It is clear that you are just pulling my chain at this point, but I can't let you get away with a preposterous statement like this one.

    What you describe is, in fact, social studies. You agree with me and you don't even realize it.

    Science class is where the subject of science arises. The interjection of creation myths is clearly out of place as they have no basis in scientific fact.

    Whatever in the world do you mean by this? Education has always taken place in environments where multiple subjects are studied. Usually in different classes where one can stick to the subject at hand without distraction. English isn't taught in math classes. Geography isn't taught in biology classes. And theology isn't taught in geology class. Not by scientists at least.

    As long as a student takes a well-rounded curriculum, he will be exposed to science, social studies, and the arts and will be completely informed about controversial topics yet properly schooled in the various subjects. Confusing students by mixing religious psuedo-science with true science will produce a generation of pseudo-scientists who will benefit no one.
     
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    Hell yea, putting your neighbor's bandwidth to good use! :hihi::thumb:
     
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    Thanks Red, I for one am smarter than I was when I started reading this thread. :hihi:
     
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    I was for a while before I bought a router since my room in the apartment doesn't have a cable outlet in it. So I couldn't set up the cable modem in my room. My roommates room has the cable outlet so I didn't have internet on my computer until we went and bought a router.
     

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