First of all it would be point, then the set, then the match. Good grief you clowns can't even get tennis right and you want to talk constitution? Look, just because "you" feel it is okay for the federal government to "tell" you that you "have" to do something only means you are an idiot. That just isn't the way it supposed to work slappy. You can bring up all the liability insurance you want to it will still come down to your CHOICE to drive. Calling it a "tax" is a bullsh!t way to force something on the people that they don't have the power to enact under the constitution. Phucking liberals, you guys really need help.
And if they go by precedents, like they prefer, the mandate will pass. If they rule it unconstitutional, then mandated liability insurance will no longer be legal. Many other congressional mandates will be challenged. lawyers will be busy for years raking off money. Over many cases, the Supreme Court has held that Congress can regulate economic activities that taken cumulatively across the country have a substantial effect on interstate commerce. Purchasing health insurance is an economic transaction. Taken cumulatively those who do this, or who don't do it, have a substantial effect on interstate commerce.
I guess I feel the need to opine, and it's a little off topic. Mandate or no mandate?... That's just nibbling around the edges of the issue. The real issue is; socialized healthcare; yes or no. I say Yes. As we all know in the USA employers have normally supplied healthcare. Now, even with employees chipping in to cover costs. Health care has added so much to the cost of labor, that US companies have found themselves at a competitive disadvantage overseas. This gave me hope, I thought maybe the problem would be obvious, and the solution clear. Nope, heartless corporations simply shifted labor from America. Business cares only about the bottom line, they don't give a sh!t about what's good/bad for America. I have a friend that I've argued with for 20 years about this subject, he hated the idea of socialized medicine. A small business owner, he doesn't buy health insurance for himself. Now he has a problem with his hand, it locks up and he can't open his fingers sometimes, he has put up with this condition for over 3 years. ...This is the American health system... My dad, the cop/judge, could not even discuss socialized medicine without shouting. He removed CNN, MSNBC from his DirectTV list. He is an extra devout republican.....Three years ago he became quite ill, nobody knows what it was exactly, but it almost killed him. For 10 days he was in very intensive care. He has good insurance, but it wriggled out of paying some costs, after it paid off. Dad paid cash to cover the remaining $27,000. His health has deteriorated, and so has his savings. Finally, he signed everything over to my sister, to protect/hide his assets. ...This is the American health system... I have a dirt poor Aunt, who has a heart of gold, but it needed fixing. She had triple bypass heart surgery. Just the operation, not including pre/post treatment, cost $720,000. Because she didn't have a pot to piss in, she payed nothing, and owes nothing. Me, my friend, and my dad, would have been left with a $140,000 bill after our 80% insurance paid out. Except a lot of health carriers wouldn't have signed off, for the operation. Aunty was considered a good choice for the operation, because of her otherwise good health, but mostly because she was fully insured by the State of Oregon. Me, my friend and dad,... would have been placed on medication......This is the American health system... Hard workers, pay through the nose, or go without. This is America's current "world's best healthcare". The American health system is phucked up, because the American health system, isn't concerned with the health of America. It's all about $$,$$$,$$$,$$$,$$$
I'd have a better chance convincing you that shaving is a good idea. It was more of one of those questions you aren't supposed to answer (even though we already know how you would answer it). Bottom line is whether you understand it or not, it is NOT alright for the government to make you do ANYTHING.
The feds do not mandate auto liability insurance. It's the states that mandate liability insurance for those that choose to own cars. It's a public safety issue. Your argument ignores that Obamacare is trying to mandate the purchase of a good or a service. It would be like requiring American citizens to buy yogurt or monthly massages. The Supreme Court has never allowed this and never will.
How about military service? The Constitution requires that all men make themselves available for service. How about obeying the laws of Congress? You are arguing for anarchy, which is typical right-wing fascist behavior.
The government telling the insurance industry that they have to keep insurance rates affordable, and even defining "affordable", is regulation. The government ordering the citizenry to purchase insurance is not regulation, it is government intrusion. Can you not see the difference?
