I'm seriously considering voting for Obama...

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  1. houtiger

    houtiger Founding Member

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    Good article from Christopher Buckley on his resignation from the National Review, the magazine his father founded:

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2008-10-14/sorry-dad-i-was-fired

    Conservative columnists finally getting to where I got in 1991. This party has not served american well.
     
  2. Andouille

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    There is absolutely no way in Hell any Obama supporter can be intellectually honest and castigate Palin on her experience. She has more executive experience than Obama has.
     
  3. Andouille

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    What a joke. He's shocked that his support of a socialist candidate would result in his dismissal at a conservative magazine?

    Aside from the obvious political differences, there is business to consider. Publishing in the Internet age isn't exactly what it used to be. How far would the subscription rate fall if he was allowed to continue writing for a conservative publication when his beliefs obviously fall way tot he left?
     
  4. houtiger

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    Peggy Noonan is a noted CONSERVATIVE columnist for the Wall St. Journal. She has been roundly criticized by Kathleen Parker and Christopher Buckley, both noted conservative journalists at the National Review, a conservative magazine.

    I have posted all 3 articles in various threads here in FSA. This is not just criticism from an "Obama supporter", although I think she's a lightweight on economics and foreign affairs.

    You talk about experience like its the only thing that matters. It's not. Johnson had lots of experience, didn't do him any good, one term president. Carter was a gov. of Georgia, Bush I had lots of experience, Bush II was a gov. of Tx. What did it get us, two of the worst presidents of my lifetime in Carter and Bush II.

    You fail to mention intelligence. Smart presidents do well. Kennedy was smart, Nixon was smart, and Clinton was smart. 2 had loose zippers, which never affected their decision making regarding legislation that i can detect. Nixon was an egomaniac and a crook who resigned in disgrace.

    It's not just about experience. It's also about being smart. I think Obama is smarter than McCain. I actually think it trumps experience. Bush is not very smart, although he had the experience of being Tx. gov., and it doesn't prove anything. He has pushed Carter out of the bottom spot as worst president in my lifetime.
     
  5. houtiger

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    He was not dismissed, he resigned. He would no longer work for a publication that stiffled the his opinion. He has enough money that he can do whatever he wants.

    Is the right willing to look at itself objectively? Apparently not. It is hard to fix something that you can't admit is broken. Buckley is trying to help the conservative movement, by pointing out that they've lost their way. They seem too insecure to listen to smart folks in their own ranks.

    Let's see how the election goes. If the dems win big, there will be a major housecleaning in the republican party. They will have to rethink the 80's Reagan strategy of aligning with the religious right, and not assume they will pick up the middle class looking for fiscal conservatism and sound foreign policy after exhibiting such poor work the last 8 years, being anything but fiscally conservative or exhibiting sound foreign policy.
     
  6. PURPLE TIGER

    PURPLE TIGER HOPE is not a strategy!

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    When you lie under oath I think any future legislation is affected. Although I didn't approve of his affair(s), I could have lived with an apology. Lying under oath should have cost him the presidency.

    Any other federal employee would've been fired, demoted, removed, etc. for lying under oath.

    Then again you couldn't get a job with the federal government if you had a previous association with Bill Ayers. Well...unless you're running for president.
     
  7. Andouille

    Andouille Guest

    Spin baby, spin.

    He resigned because of the avalanche of anger from the magazines subscribers. I guess Tommy Bowden resigned too.

    You won't get an argument from me about the collapse of the Republican party and how it's lost it's way. It's lost it's way from small government and Constitutionalism to just a twin of the Democrat party wearing a different suit. Both have become parties of big government, out of control spending, social programs and intrusion into private business and lives.

    That said, supporting a socialist for President isn't a move in the right direction, it's a bigger move into the direction of BIGGER GOVERNMENT.

    If he was truly a conservative he could have made a big statement about the party by refusing to endorse anyone.
     
  8. PURPLE TIGER

    PURPLE TIGER HOPE is not a strategy!

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    Does the Republican Party need to get their act together?...Yes

    Is it an impossible feat?...No

    A large number of people aren't voting Democrat because they like or believe in what the liberals are saying. The voters are desperate and are willing to try something different. That doesn't mean it will work. So far we've seen two years of a Nancy Pelosi run Congress and it's easy to see the results...we're going from bad to worse!

    Remember...the approval rating for Congress is worse than for Bush. If the Democrats believe people are enamored with their party, they'll also fall flat on their face.

    Both parties have major problems right now. For some reason we can't seem to find quality candidates to run either party.

    Now it appears to be the Democrats turn. Can anyone honestly say they feel confident or comfortable with Obama, Pelosi, Biden, Clinton, Frank, and others running our country? Scary! :eek:
     
  9. red55

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    Nonsense. Nothing about having met Bill Ayers disqualifies anyone for a federal job.
     
  10. PURPLE TIGER

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    I think Obama did a little more than simply "meet" Bill Ayers.

    That's like saying Bill Clinton "met" Monica.
     

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