I'm seriously considering voting for Obama...

Here's my entire comment...not just the part you chose to use. I'm not sure how it's an insult to Obama or Kerry but whatever floats your boat.

...and the same thing can be said for politicians (and Hollywood) who claim they know the "average" American but are completely out of touch. I think this hurt H. Clinton, J. Edwards, J. Kerry, and A. Gore. Obama is also not an "average" American but timing is everything. The VP candidates are probably closer than McCain & Obama.

I believe most politicians at the state and federal levels are out of touch with the general public. Whether it's their income level, attitude, demeanor, etc. - they're not like most "average" people. (Maybe that's why Bush's performance rating in lousy and Congress' rating is even worse.)

 

i agree

 

Well, what is it? Looks like most of the thread was about one thing you said it wasn't. Or can you tell me?:lol:

 

:hihi:

Hey, don't take it personal like. We're all tigers. I like your avatar. And, hey, there are quite a few folks here who share your sentiments. Hell, I probably agree with 75% of what you believe in.

It just seemed that people were piling on Obama and giving McCain a pass.

On it's own I probably wouldn't think twice about it. But with the rest of the comments it just added to the one-sided argument that was occurring.

 

yes and no.

yes, you are missing THE POINT.

and no, i cannot tell you what it is.

"Reason is not automatic. Those who deny it cannot be conquered by it.":thumb:

 

jk, 71.

it seems that you think im ragging on mccain. ok, maybe i did a little, but that wasnt the jist of my post. i just pointed out the symbolism which many may regard as contrary to stereotypes for each parties ideals. in no way do i hold his advantageous position at birth against him. i do however give obama credit for rising above his position at birth.

 

Never personal, it's too much fun. I wouldn't give McCain a pass, it's just the lesser of two evils I suppose.

 

The more I examine my support for McCain, the more I realize I'm voting against the Liberal agenda. It's not even about Obama. It's about this rejuvination of the 60s-era idiots and their memes : "make love, not war", "it's not little Johnies fault he can't read", "it's not her fault she has four kids, no husband and no job", "abortion is the answer to child poverty", "I'm OK, you're OK - except if what you want to do runs counter to my elitist worldview"...

As I watched the "debate" (what a joke of a term), I couldn't help wondering how the single idea that "healthcare is a right" didn't just absoltuely throw the election against Obama. The fact that he could say that a HUGELY expensive government entitlement program would be a RIGHT and not just get SKEWERED is sad. Socialism on the march.

If the average American actually just quietly thought about the implications of being forced to pay for someone else's lifestyle choices and health problems - regardless of that other person's potential to pay for their own problems - I'm confident they would reject it out of hand.

But the media is in Obama's zipper, and time is short. So they get away with it.

Sad. That's how I feel casting my vote against the rise of socialism in America.

 

the liberal agenda may push no personal responsibility, but thats not obama. he is not a dove (he even got flak for the aggressive pakistan comment) and he has railed on the black community many times for not taking control of their own destiny. doesnt seem like he or his family blamed anyone for their situation or sulked.

and mccain was just pushing the homeowner bailout.

btw, i really disagree with one of your slogans---it really is not little johnny's fault he cant read.

 

The thing is, Republicans are just as bad.

I'm not sure I disagree with this, but as a society I wonder how bad it is to make sure that everyone has access to health care and doesn't have to pay out the butt for it. Our health care system is broken.