I'm seriously considering voting for Obama...

Isn't Beck on headline news? I guess that's owned by CNN, but it's not quite the spin machine CNN is (that I've noticed). Beck is probably closer to the top of the list than the bottom in my book, and Dobbs is ok.

I've really started looking for alternatives to CNN and FOX, they both get hard to stomach and it seems like they offer a lot of empty calories.

 

just get both the nation and the national review and take the average

 

Ah, so you were being sarcastic?

 

I said editorial policy. That involves placement of articles, tone of articles, headline wording, selection of words, and also what gets printed on the editorial page. I thought you were smarter than that, Red. You're disappointing me.

Bias is extremely subjective and I've given you examples. To give you front page examples would require more time than you deserve, but you and I and everyone reading this knows what I'm talking about and that I'm correct. How a story is presented, timing, wording, headline selection, placement in the paper.

You're living in the past. It used to be true that editorializing was left to the two or three pages in the middle. Now, that's just where the ranting occurs. The front page headlines are editorialized. Giving you examples exceeds my time available. You'll have to open your eyes for yourself by comparing headlines of similar events in different papers, or you'll have to just disagree and be, in my view, embarrassingly wrong.

Correct. I thought I sorta knew that you were a smart guy mostly yanking chains for fun. Lately, I'm starting to think you believe what you say. Concerning.

Truth and spin are two different things. Truth is universally spun in the media. Without regard for the perception that is left. And the media elites pat themselves on the back for their professionalism even though they know full well what the intent of their crafty wording really was. So, are you really a curmudgeon? That view seems significantly less seasoned.

There is a marginal difference between these people and it's insignificant. Again - editorial policy has morphed into an embarrassing replica of the Ricky Lake show. O'Reilly is Ricky Lake. Hume is Jerry Springer. Is there really that much difference? Uh, no.

Cop out. I put them all in the same category - entertainment.

Look, most of my opinion has to do with my access to FACTS and my subsequent witness of these FACTS being distorted by the various "media" interests to fit their narrowly defined editorial policies, which are driven - like Ricky Lake and Jerry Springer - by the desire to grab some market share.

You can parse this all you want, Red. Nothing you see on TV or read in the newspapers is remotely unbiased. NOTHING. Those days are long, long gone - the information age has turned information into a commodity and it's for sale and it will be marketed - just like underwear and beer - to your personal taste.

 

MSNBC - Hugely Liberal
Networks (ABC, NBC, CBS) - in the tank for Obama, completely

You have no other alternatives.

I recommend a hobby and reading history.

 

there is very little (basically no) false reporting in the mainstream. the bias comes into play in what they decide to cover

yes. i have a problem with emoticons.

 

I'm too stunned to respond.

 

there's no point...