I'm seriously considering voting for Obama...

An argument against....

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This is like asking, "How do you know the sky is blue? What is blue? Why is that blue? Are you sure the color you think is blue is the same for everyone? Are all blue colors the same? Can you prove it's blue? Give me some evidence that the color you see is really blue."

Everyone who watches that crap knows that Fox and the Washington Times are slurping right wing pole and everyone else is slurping left wing pole. Asking for proof is a cheap tactic to try to levy doubt on an otherwise inarguable conclusion. CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, NY Times, WAPO, ChiTrib, LAT, SAFChron - all staffed, written and edited by hugely biased liberals.

If you want unbiased media these days, you're phucked. Thanks a lot, Fox and CNN.

I know I'm a broken record on this. But if it doesn't have 400 pages and whole lot of footnotes, it can't be trusted AT ALL.

And even then....check the author's bio. If he/she worked on, near, or around anyone's political campaign - donate the book to the most appropriate political party headquarters. It's useless trash.

 

lou dobbs doesnt appear to be left. nor glenn beck.

 

http://www.cnbc.com/id/26982338/page/7/

Warren Buffett: I mean the truth is, I've never had it so good in terms of taxes. I am paying the lowest tax rate that I've ever paid in my life. Now, that's crazy. And if you look at the Forbes 400, they are paying a lower rate, accounting payroll taxes, than their secretary or -- whomever around their office. On average. And so I think that actually people in my situation should be paying more tax. I think the rest of the country should be paying less, the 95 percent that Obama talks about or maybe even a little higher than that. But I think that a stimulus plan should really be geared to the people...

Well, you know, the capital gains tax is 15 percent now. So I sit there in my office and I make a lot of money by capital gains, and I pay 15 percent, and I pay no payroll tax on it.

I think it's terrible for people in effect to say that income from investment should be taxed at a much lower rate than income from labor. I mean I just think that you're going to -- we're going to spend 3.1 trillion, something like that, this year. We're going to only raise about 2.6 trillion or something like -- you're going to raise it from somebody. You know. Now, who you're going to get it from, you're going to get it from me and you, or you're going to get it from, you know, the people that drive the taxis, bring me here. Whatever. Maybe. I mean you got to get it from somebody. And, you know, everybody is against paying tax. I feel the same, everybody feels that way. But if you want a government that's going to do the things we ask our government to do, you've got to get it from somebody. And over the years, the last -- particularly the last six or eight years, they've taken less and less from a guy like me. Now, you know, everybody likes to talk about how the top one percent pays this percent in income, but the income tax, we'll say 1.3 trillion. The payroll taxes are over 900 billion. That 900 billion, that doesn't come from me. I pay it on the first hundred thousand or something like that. But that comes from the people in my office. And they are paying 900 billion -- nobody ever talked about that when they talk about what the one percent is paying. I love to tell how I'm suffering because one percent we're paying 25 percent of the total. We're not paying 25 percent of the total taxes on individuals. We're paying maybe 25 percent of the income tax, but the payroll tax is over a third of the receipts of the federal government. And they don't take that from me on capital gains. They don't take that from me on dividends. They take from the woman who comes in and takes the wastebaskets out.

 

By allowing the most upward mobility.

 

Just because it is beyond your scope of understanding does not make it inconceivable.

 

i disagree, anyone that thinks its inconceivable doesnt want to understand it.

 

No. Just a Bush hater and a populist. I don't know Glenn Beck.

 

No - you know what I'm trying to tell you. Obviously the Journal is conservative. Limbaugh is a tool. Coulter could be a powerful weapon if she didn't take a good argument and turn it into lunacy in a tight black dress...

The editorial policy of the sources I cited, on a daily basis, is example enough. Your tactic is to ask detailed evidence-based questions about subjective material that defies "proof". When the answers don't come (because we all have lives) or fail to meet your criteria, you then discount the argument. BL: the vast majority of the media is populated with urban-dwelling, elitist liberals. Most of the rest are akin to the Limbaugh crowd, or the bible-thumping crowd, neither of whom are disposed to unbiased reporting. How do I know? I walk around with my eyes open.

NY Times editorial page today, summarized: Courts and Congress should be allowed to tell lenders what to do with bad mortgages. Test scores should not be used to measure student achievement. College entry exams shouldn't be given so much weight to determine merit. George Bush has earned the title: Worst President Ever.

WaPo editorial page today, summarized: Socializing the economy is really just making financial order out of chaos, and it's OK that it's a conflict of interest for the government to own parts of the financial markets. "As a matter of policy, we oppose the death penalty and argued against its expansion to someone who rapes a child."

Whatever, Red. You and I both know I'm dead on. You're just being a curmudgeon.