I'm on a health/protein kick...

Discussion in 'Good Eats' started by RedElephants, Aug 29, 2007.

  1. NoLimitMD

    NoLimitMD Founding Member

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    And VitaminWater, one of the dumber of the modern inventions.
     
  2. TigerBait3

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    the protein is great...but if you dont run/workout all you will do is gain weight. keep up the workouts after this month.
     
  3. martin

    martin Banned Forever

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    vitamin water notes:

    1. vitamin water is good. it fills a place in the market that i needed filled. when i play sports i bring two bottles, one water, one gatorade, because i need a proper mix of the too-strong gatorade, and the not-salty-enough water for times when i am losing massive amounts of fluids. vitamin water is a nice mix.

    2. david wright apparently took .5% of the vitamin water company lnstead of payment for his endorsement and made around 20 million when coke bought them out. 50 cent supposedly made 100 million or more, according to rumor.
     
  4. tygertail

    tygertail Founding Member

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    you are going to crash during your workouts. you need some carbs before and after your workout and gatorade during. No carbs in the diet means that your body is going to break down protein and muscle as fuel.

    I started Mackie Shilstone's Lean and Hard program about 3 weeks ago to get back in shape and am really impressed with it. I've been knowing Mackie for a while and trust what he says.
     
  5. Deceks7

    Deceks7 Founding Member

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    Just how many calories is this program? It looks more like a diet. If you are trying to pack on some weight you have to feed the beast.
     
  6. islstl

    islstl Playoff committee is a group of great football men Staff Member

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    Quaker Oats now makes a Weight Control Oatmeal product that tastes great and has more fiber and protein in it than the plain oatmeal products. So you get the best of both worlds, it tastes great and it's even better for you than the original oatmeal. It has the sugar substitute in it.

    I would get some Cyto Gainer instead or in addition to your Whey protein. If you look at your Whey protein container, I am sure it doesn't list much in the way of carbs (usually less than 10 g). You need a good amount of carbs both before and after your workouts. The carbs in Cyto Gainer are really good complex carbs (not sugar) that are perfect for use as energy during your workout.

    One note of caution. Eat what you like, within reason. Diets don't work if they are just that, diets. For example, use real mayo instead of fat free, but use it in moderation. Believe me, you won't last a month on that god awful diet you are describing. I've been there before. It just doesn't work long term. Simple rule of thumb is to eat every 3 hours, small controlled meals equally anywhere from 250-400 calories. This raises your metabolism sky high, as long as you're also doing it in conjunction with a workout program.

    There are 2 basic kinds of proteins. Whey and casein (there is also Soy but that's garbage). Whey is perfect for your before and afterworkout drinks. They are digested immediately. Casein is slow digesting and should be taken right before you go to bed. Buy some Muscle Milk protein powder. Mix it with milk about 15-20 minutes before you go to bed. Your muscles rebuild while you sleep. You need protein support and Muscle Milk is the perfect answer. This meal would tie you over between the time you go to bed and the time you wake up (8 hours). Keep your metabolism cranked. And Muscle Milk has a lot of the good fats your body needs to burn fat. One thing most people don't realize is that you need good fats in your diet in order to burn fat. Walnuts are awesome, as they provide a substantial amount of Omega 3 fatty acids. Fish will provide you Omega 6 fatty acids. You need both in order to burn fat.

    I would order these supplements online. Local stores charge too much usually. You can go to buildingbrawn.com, massnutrition.com or bodybuilding.com.

    Do yourself a huge favor, have one good cheat meal once a week. I'm talking pizza, hamburgers, etc.
     
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  7. RedElephants

    RedElephants Founding Member

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    Thanks a lot for all the info.

    I'm not a fat person by any means but I do have a little of a belly...Beer belly of sorts. I've got a good frame to build some muscle, I just need to cut down on my stomach.

    I see what you're all saying about carbs. I picked up more Gatorade and other carb packed foods at the grocery store today. Since the holiday was today, I'm starting my 1st tough workout Wednesday...I will be working out Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays at 7am.

    The thing is on the diet is that I dont mind eating that kind of food. All food is good to me, I am just lazy and eat out all the time. If I can just discipline myself and eat at home, I should do ok.

    We will see how it goes...

    For the record, I'm starting at 5'10'', 192lbs...
     
  8. islstl

    islstl Playoff committee is a group of great football men Staff Member

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    Don't worry about your weight, just worry about your body fat percentage improving.
     
  9. USMTiger

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    Check that: dont let the scale determine your success if you are lifting weights. Body fat and pants sizes are a better indicator.

    Also, take fish oil suppliments for some healthy fat. I take 6 caps a day. Unsalted nuts before bed are good for building muscle.

    Ignore the previous comments: a trainer is a great way to get started with a routine. He can help you find out where you are at, design a good program, and pick out any issues with your technique. I went from a fatass at 280lbs and a 44" waist, to my current muscular 225lbs and 36" waist, and one of the things I attribure my success to was the time I spent learning from my trainer.

    Finally, if you want the real deal, learn how to deadlift properly and do it alot. Make sure you have your form 100% correct, or you will regret it. This will benefit you more than any other lift, period. Find out the maximum weight you can lift 5x. Do it. Then go 10% lighter, and do 5 more reps. Next workout, do the same but add 5 lbs. You'll surpass the metros on the preacher curl bar in no time.

    Holla if you need any advice; Ive been lifting for a while now, and am pretty obsessed with it all.
     
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  10. RedElephants

    RedElephants Founding Member

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    My most recent trip to the grocery store:

    2.5 doz eggs
    2 packs skinless chicken breast (3 per)
    48oz Quaker Oats
    1 pack brown sugar (splenda)
    2 huge paks sliced turkey
    12 cans tuna in water
    3 packs tuna fillets
    1 shuck bananas
    1 2.5 gal spring water
    1 loaf honey wheat bread
    1 jar peanut butter
    3 cans green beans
    3 cans corn
    1 gallon skim milk
    2 24oz jars cottage cheese

    The workouts are going great and my diet is awesome (except when I cheat on Saturdays)....if anyone cares LOL It's really starting to get easy to eat better if you just stick with it. You find out all kinds of new things to combine that are healthy--and good!
     
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