'Illegal' is the Key Word

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  1. CParso

    CParso Founding Member

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    Patent laws encourage inventions. If you can't make a profit off of your ideas, you don't have as big of an incentive to research and develop them. I don't believe they are a bad thing for the economy.
     
  2. mesquite tiger

    mesquite tiger Diabolical Genius

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    so, to get back on track regarding the illegal aliens living in the USA, I have become sorta upset about the recent walk out at schools in the Dallas area the last two days. These kids are not walking out because they are really interested or excited about this issue and want their voices heard, they are walking out because it is cool and it gets them out of class.

    my wife works for the school district, and they had a lot of kids walk out today again and go to downtown Dallas to protest at city hall. the school administrators sent buses down to pick them up, and the kids refused to go home on the bus, so the administrators told the buses to leave. an hour or so later the police called and asked why there were no buses to pick up these students, and the administrators told them they had more important issues to deal with now - so the police threatened to arrest the protesters if they did not find a way to vacate. they interviewed one student and she posed the question, "What will people do when there are no illegal aliens to mow their yards?". So, is this what they are protesting for???????

    I say if you are illegal you have no right to live here. you are not paying taxes, and there are more important social needs out there then illegals to mow my yard.
     
  3. martin

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    if they cant survive, we dont need them. if we needed them, they would survive, because we would be paying them enough to survive.

    the government shouldnt be telling us what we need. if we need food, we will buy it. directly, without the government middle man taking his cut.

    in fact if somebody argued that your protectionism creates poverty and death in other countries by ruining their fair chances to sell their products, i dont think i would disagree.
     
  4. martin

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    i think we all agree there. i guess the question is what should we do, make the illegals legal, or deport them? i dunno. red says we should give em legal work permits and let them stay, i tend to agree with him.
     
  5. mesquite tiger

    mesquite tiger Diabolical Genius

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    I do not think there is an easy answer to that. I know that a lot of the illegals work in order to send their earning back to their families in Mexico. I will never say they are not a hard working group of people...they do a lot of jobs most Americans would refuse to do......and that speaks to some American's philosophy that they rather milk the government for money rather then go out and earn it.

    I think the answer is not what to do with the illegals that are already here, but instead what we do in the future to prevent illegal aliens from entering. a large fence on the border is a grand idea in concept, but in reality there are not enough border patrol agents out there to patrol the thing, and if someone really wants to enter the country illegally they will most likely find a way.

    Mandating employers only hire people with valid social security numbers is a way to discourage illegal aliens, as is limiting government assistance to only those with social security numbers - but there are ways around that, such as fake SS cards, etc.

    so, I do not have a good answer for you. i think any idea will be met with harsh criticism from the hispanic community (notice there are no Canadians protesting this).
     
  6. TigerNtz

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    I agree... it would create too much chaos to try and deport 12 million people. Look at the protests when the bill is just brought up! We just need to find a way to control the borders, they are coming across in huge numbers everyday.
    Lets just get the ones already here to register and be legal, and then we will at least know of them, about them, and can sort of keep up with them...
     
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  9. LSUDeek

    LSUDeek All That She Wants...

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    leet, was able to pick up scrubs a half hour after it aired. i had my computer unplugged for maintenance and skipped the scheduled recording. i just copied and pasted the link out of the xml, but i may try to automate stuff in the future.
     
  10. martin

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    you have such a poor understanding. if toyota folded, we could buy cars from hyundai. if hyundai raises prices, we can buy volkswagons or mazdas or audis. we do not need to supplement ford and chevy because we scared that the world will refuse to sell us the vehicles we need to make our economy run.

    the world is a big place with lots of countries who want to sell to us! there is no risk that suddenly nobody wants to get rich by selling us things. i can see maybe one or two countries having a commie revolution or whatever, but the world is large. guatamala can tell us to go hell and not give us any more bananas, but thats good news for nicaragua, who would love to sell us twice as many. get it?

    you dont seem to understand that selling to us is a treat for other countries. sellers want markets, and they especially want the american market.

    pay attention, you pay less when you have the freedom to choose where to buy and are not forced to pay into a subsidy. so you pay far less in the long run. killing the subsidy makes it far easier for americans to afford to feed themselves.
     

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