If you weren't already convinced that Orange PINO is a scumbag

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  1. Winston1

    Winston1 Founding Member

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    That is probably the most optimistic outcome.
     
  2. Kikicaca

    Kikicaca Meaux

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    The Ugly Little Chubby aint gonna do shit! China can send him to his room any time they wish and we could bitch slap him into submission in a few weeks. China doesnt want war with us and can't risk the economic and humanitarian crisis a war between us and NK would create. Trump is finally doing the right thing with heavy sanctions and forcing the little bastard to shit or get off his little boy potty chair. It's brilliant Trumps rhetoric I believe is aimed more at China to force them to shut the little fucker up.

    Am I wrong?
     
  3. GiantDuckFan

    GiantDuckFan be excellent to each other Staff Member

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    el005639 Founding Member

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    There is is virtually zero reason to believe that china will help us, and absolutely zero to believe Russia will. Both stand to gain the most from keeping our attention focused on NK....That said i did read this morning that China news reported that China would stay neutral in a conflict. That message if true will mean a lot to NK, but it would also reverse 70 years of Chinese policy.
     
  5. Kikicaca

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    China just announced that if NK fires missiles at Guam they will stay out of a war with us and NK. What they are saying to Ugly Chubby is if you fuck up we will let the US shit hammer you. Now to save face they also said if we attack NK without a good reason they will back NK. All this means is that China did us and the world a favor. They know we wont attack NK unless provoked so a win win for them and us a lose lose for NK. Looks like we wont need Godzilla after all.

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  6. el005639

    el005639 Founding Member

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    maybe, i agree it is a good sign. lets see how the little turd blossom responds
     
  7. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    Which turd blossom? Ours or North Korea's?
     
  8. Kikicaca

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    Thats a classy statement, yeah lets equate Trump to KJI
     
  9. uscvball

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    As I was saying....

    "Despite the complexity of the problem, the solution for the U.S. is remarkably simple. If North Korea and China are acting in a dangerous and unlawful way to get the U.S. to somehow stand down in Asia, the proper response isn't to launch an attack, but to simply show up even more.

    We can look to the final years of the Cold War as a model for success.

    It's important to use those Cold War lessons because the false choice we're hearing today on the North Korean threat is eerily similar to what we were told during the U.S. conflict with the Soviet Union. That would be the insistence that the only two choices are war or major concessions to the aggressors.

    That wasn't true then, and it isn't true now because the Cold War was eventually won by the U.S. and the West without launching a major attack in its final 10 years. And the way the U.S. won it then was by following President Ronald Reagan's clear and unwavering policy of showing up.

    Showing up in the 1981-91 era meant increasing NATO's missile defense and offensive missile presence along the borders with Eastern Europe and even into outer space, boosting the size and scope of the U.S. Air Force and Navy, and not agreeing to back down until a very tangible concession on Soviet nuclear arms was in hand.

    President Reagan's domestic political opponents and pro-Soviet propaganda outfits attacked this strategy in full force. The prevailing message was that the Reagan policies of building up our forces, even if no attacks took place, put the world too much at risk for a nuclear confrontation. The media became flooded with nuclear doomsday warnings and dramatizations, hitting their zenith with the 1983 TV movie "The Day After" that posted record high ratings.

    Even President Reagan himself said the program left him "greatly depressed."

    But depressed or not, Reagan stayed the course. And thanks to unwavering support from Great Britain's then-Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, the Soviet Union realized it could not simply scare the U.S. out of defending Western Europe and could not scare Western Europe into urging the U.S. to stand down.

    Despite numerous depictions of Reagan and the U.S. in general as being eager for war, the Pentagon knew there was no good option for any direct attack on the Soviet Union. Showing strength , not using it, was the goal. And after only a decade of the U.S. executing that policy, a nearly 50-year-long Cold War ended when the U.S.S.R. ceased to exist in 1991"

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...-would-have-dealt-with-north-korea/ar-AApPMhu


    Sadly, I don't believe Trump can engineer this type of response because it requires too much patience and focus on the long term.
     
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