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Discussion in 'The Tiger's Den' started by LSUGradin99, Dec 4, 2008.

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I never realized we had so much turmoil here. Did notice an excessive # of threads being moved though, many of which were clearly LSU-relevant in my opinion.

MoneyTiger, Dec 4, 2008

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CajunPunk TF's Resident Realist

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Make me supreme moderator, and give me 51% of all contributions over $4.95.

CajunPunk, Dec 4, 2008

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First of all, I dont mind paying to keep the site up. If nothing changes Im not going anywhere. I like the site WAY more than other LSU sites and its why I have been here 5 years. If we need money to pay for servers and bandwidth then we need to charge for special privileges.

Open the whole site up to any registered user. No more contrib only forums except maybe a suggestion forum as Grad proposed. Give em the ads which may encourage them to join. Maybe even scale contributor status. 10 bucks gets rid of the ads, 25 bucks gets you full rights with sig, av's, increased PM box size, etc. All the other suggestions are great. I would also suggest we re-align and re-name the forum categories as follows:

Sports:

- The Tigers Den: LSU topics ONLY! If its not directly about LSU, it dont go here.

- The College Den: All college sports talk

- The Pro Den: All pro sport talk

- The Tiger Recruiting Den: LSU recruiting topics

Lagniappe:

- The Roundtable: Everything not related to Sports

- Good Eats: Yummy!

- Free Speach Alley: Politcal Arguments

- Fantasy Sports: For the playas

- Video Games:

Classified:

- Buy-Sell-Trade

- Ticket Office

Archive:

- Best of

DRC, Dec 4, 2008

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LSUFanZone said: ↑

I'm not trying to stir any pot or rock the boat per say, but it seems like TF is all about the money. First off, charging members for the ability to read certain forums, have access to their member CPanel, or have the ability to have cool sigs or Avatars or even just look at picture downloads posted by other members is greedy imo. All of these functions come with the VB software and do not add any expense to the forums owner.... other than bandwidth used up by posting pictures, but there's certain server companies that offer big enough packages for realtively no money that would off set this issue.
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because its is a nice thing to do for the people that contribute money to that site. I like this aspect of it. It is also nice to know there is a spot that does not require much spammer or idiot (i am not calling anyone an idiot) moderation. The "private" section does not directly relate to LSU sports, so if you don't want to contribute or you just want to talk LSU sports you are able to do so.

MoneyTiger said: ↑

I never realized we had so much turmoil here. Did notice an excessive # of threads being moved though, many of which were clearly LSU-relevant in my opinion.
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not much turmoil. just trying to add some improvements.

Krypto, Dec 4, 2008

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Krypto said: ↑

because its is a nice thing to do for the people that contribute money to that site. I like this aspect of it. It is also nice to know there is a spot that does not require much spammer or idiot (i am not calling anyone an idiot) moderation. The "private" section does not directly relate to LSU sports, so if you don't want to contribute or you just want to talk LSU sports you are able to do so.
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I do agree that Contributors should be given some "perks" for their money, but like I said, I know the costs of opening/ maintaining a VB forum and it's pennies in the grand scheme of things. I make little money at this point in time due to a lay off but I am still able to keep up and maintain 2 VB forums right now. So their not expensive, I just find it insulting to some degree to restrcit discussions or abilities based on my giving or not, but I still log in so I can discuss some LSU football.

GregLSU, Dec 4, 2008

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LSUFanZone said: ↑

I'm not trying to stir any pot or rock the boat per say, but it seems like TF is all about the money. First off, charging members for the ability to read certain forums, have access to their member CPanel, or have the ability to have cool sigs or Avatars or even just look at picture downloads posted by other members is greedy imo. All of these functions come with the VB software and do not add any expense to the forums owner.... other than bandwidth used up by posting pictures, but there's certain server companies that offer big enough packages for realtively no money that would off set this issue.
As I said in another thread the servers, domains and VB software is not relatively expensive so it doesn't take a large resource of money to keep a forum like this open ( afew hundered to open and maybe $30/mo for a good server). The only real expense (unless brett can do it himself) is in graphic and forum skin work. But even then it's easy to find people for relatively low cost to do this. So again it's not that expensive. All it takes is a person with a little knowledge of code to change some of the templates.
Advertisements aren't a bad way for a forum to make some extra cash to offset some of these expenses, and they can be added without cluttering the forums themselves. All that needs to be done is add another drop link at the top of the forums for "Sponsors" or "advertisers" and add their links or banners in there. IF someone wants to click on it and use them that's their choice, but it doesn't force anyone to see the advertisers unless they choose to.
I used to be a Contributing member here but chose to stop just because I don't agree with forcing people to pay money to read or take part in discussion on topics that someone enjoys, just so someone else can make a buck on it. I've owned numerous VBulletin forums of various topics, and still own a few... I've also learned how to do some of the work myself (like add forum hacks, template edits and so forth), but there's a ton of ways to make money from outside sources without charging the members for access and without cluttering the forums.
Like I said not trying to rock the boat or flame TF, but daily activity could be atleast twice what it is now with open access to all discussions and functions of the board. After all... board traffic is what's required to get advertisers, not just member account numbers.
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I'm not going to get into a big debate over your points but I'll just note for the record.

I don't agree with forcing people to pay money to read or take part in discussion on topics that someone enjoys, just so someone else can make a buck on it.
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No one is forced to do anything. This is an LSU forum and the LSU related sections have always been and currently are completely free to read and participate in.

A forum of this size costs money to operate and maintain. I can assure you it's not $30. There have been many LSU fan forums that have come and gone in the 8-9 years we've been here. We've been a reliable and trusted place for LSU fans to gather and talk about all things LSU and more. This has all been possible through my time and money, voluntary donations from our Contributors that make it possible for everyone to post for free and the hard work or our moderators that volunteer their time (which isn't free either) to keep the forum up and running smooth.

All in all your post is ignorant and insulting. I've spent more of my own time and money providing this forum for years that you can possibly imagine. Time and money that could have been spent on my wife and children.

We are going to move forward with some changes that will hopefully make TigerForums.com even better. Feel free to ad more ideas but save the insults.

BRETT, Dec 4, 2008

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Brett said: ↑

I'm not going to get into a big debate over your points but I'll just note for the record.

No one is forced to do anything. This is an LSU forum and the LSU related sections have always been and currently are completely free to read and participate in.

A forum of this size costs money to operate and maintain. I can assure you it's not $30. There have been many LSU fan forums that have come and gone in the 8-9 years we've been here. We've been a reliable and trusted place for LSU fans to gather and talk about all things LSU and more. This has all been possible through my time and money, voluntary donations from our Contributors that make it possible for everyone to post for free and the hard work or our moderators that volunteer their time (which isn't free either) to keep the forum up and running smooth.

All in all your post is ignorant and insulting. I've spent more of my own time and money providing this forum for years that you can possibly imagine. Time and money that could have been spent on my wife and children.

We are going to move forward with some changes that will hopefully make TigerForums.com even better. Feel free to ad more ideas but save the insults.
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Was never trying to insult you or anyone on your staff, if that's how you feel than i am truely sorry... if I thought TF was a bad place over all I wouldn't keep logging in to particpate in LSU discussions.
But the fact of the matter is, I too have and do own VB forums. Have been since 2000/2001. I do know the costs of running these forums and all expenses that goes into it, and have always done so with very little to no help from outside sources. But those costs are the evils of owning a forum. All I was saying was restricting members accesses or abilities based on "donations" isn't my cup of tea, if it's yours then fine. We just have two different styles of running forums. I'll shut up from here on out and won;t put my opinions in where their not needed.

GregLSU, Dec 4, 2008

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Brett said: ↑

I'm not going to get into a big debate over your points but I'll just note for the record.
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LSUFanZone said: ↑

Was never trying to insult you or anyone on your staff, if that's how you feel than i am truely sorry... if I thought TF was a bad place over all I wouldn't keep logging in to particpate in LSU discussions.
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Take it to pm guys or I may have to ban the both of you.

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We are going to move forward
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Great idea and sorry, couldn't resist such a "Tiga" moment.

LSUTiga, Dec 4, 2008

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If you allow everyone full posting access whether or not they contribute, revenue will take a nose dive.

Bengal Buddy, Dec 4, 2008

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Damn, I either had a muscle spasm pouring the Crown or I'm having flashbacks.

For a minute I thought I saw a post by . . . . .

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