I just hate all of this "Unite America" crap...

Discussion in 'Free Speech Alley' started by saltyone, Nov 4, 2008.

  1. lsu-i-like

    lsu-i-like Playoff advocate

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    Huh... I watch FOX on a fairly regular basis and never come away with any feeling but they are a mouthpiece of the Republican party. I get a similar feeling with CNN for the other side. I don't watch a lot of other news so I can't really judge too well. I sometimes listen to talk radio and NPR; conservative radio is sickeningly Republican schlock and NPR is pretty unbiased IMO, though there have been times it's seemed they were blessing Obama with slightly preferential treatment.

    So your argument is that FOX isn't biased toward the Republican party? Seriously? If so, I must deduct that you're in so deep you aren't a reliable witness. I think we've had this argument before. If it makes you sleep better think FOX is fair and balanced, what can I say? Ignorance is bliss? :insane:

    NOTE: My statements regarding FOX are in relation to the truth, not CNN. I see bias on CNN nearly as much as on FOX and am in no way defending CNN.
     
  2. TheDude

    TheDude I'm calmer than you.

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    I said that FOX was not slanted towards McCain. I said nothing about republicans. I would say the truth hurts but you live in your own little world so I doubt you will even notice. You back up your claims by telling me your opinion. I back up mine by giving statistics from an independent study. As it turns out, Fox was equally negative of both candidates but more positive for Obama. I am not going to bother listing all the other news agencies that were in the tank for Obama and slammed McCain/Palin because it is so outrageously lopsided. However, it is included in the study, which I am sure you will either not read, or just reject because it doesn't fit what you "know" about FOX.

    In case you didn't get that:

    Obama
    Negative - 40%
    Positive - 25%
    McCain
    Negative - 40%
    Positive - 22%


    http://www.journalism.org/node/13436

    It is an extensive study by the Pew Research Center.

     
  3. LSUMASTERMIND

    LSUMASTERMIND Founding Member

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    Thank you.

    That comparison is like standing next to a sewer vent and complaining about the smell of shyt.
     
  4. Andouille

    Andouille Guest

    Obviously I wouldn't compare Obama to Hitler but there is a similarity.

    It has nothing to do with their policies or views.

    The similarity is that both rose to power in an era of extreme economic discontent and both are/were extremely charismatic men that people were drawn to like lemmings.

    Both Hitler and Obama manipulated the masses using class warefare and economic envy. They had/have a cult like following.

    I found this quote from a letter to the editor in 2005 quite interesting. You could replace the name Hitler with Obama and it fits our current scenario exactly.

    While I certainly don't equate Obama's intentions with Hitler's in the least, I do think the socioeconomic conditions and political tactics used by both men frighteningly similar.

    The foundation of the Democratic party is based upon social and economic class envy.
     
  5. TheDude

    TheDude I'm calmer than you.

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    This may be so, but there are similarities to any popular/populist leader. However the connotation of Hitler is pure evil, and I think the whole world domination and wipe out the Jews thing, puts him in a category of about three guys this century. Mao and Stalin are fair but comparing Obama is unfairly painting him because you don't support him. It just doesn't hold any credence and is entirely unproductive.

    Come back when he has has invaded Canada, Mexico, Central and South America, and rounds up all the white people for extermination and then I will listen to this.
     
  6. Andouille

    Andouille Guest

    That's why I stated.
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    One can make comparisons between two people and certain situations and characteristics without ascribing the two men as the same. I made it quite clear with my statements that I don't equate Obama with Hitler. Lets not be hypersensitive. That is a tactic of the left. Consistently trying to stifle discussion with overly sensitive speech police.

    The political tactics of both men, the economic state of the union, the messianic fervor and the constituencies targeted by both men is undeniably similar and the discussion of such is legitimate and fair.

    We can discuss those points independently of the political motives of either man and without attributing the evils of Hitler to Obama which I made quite clear in my original statement.

    If I had only stated "Obama is like Hitler" then I would agree with your point. However I made a clear and deliberate point to separate the two and any intelligent person should be able to see the difference. I've had enough of the political correctness tactics to stifle speech and I simply do not fall prey to it anymore.

    In a similar vein how many of those on the Left in this country have genuinely compared President Bush to Hitler? More than a few.
     
  7. SabanFan

    SabanFan The voice of reason

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    Andouille: Stop digging.
     
  8. TheDude

    TheDude I'm calmer than you.

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    Who is stifling you? Or even condemning you or your statements? Not me or anyone else. You made your statement and I attributed it as invalid as a comparison and counterproductive. That is called a disagreement. You could have chosen hundreds of leaders to compare Obama to but you chose one of the most hated and vilified mass murderers of all time for a reason, that only you know. I guess you want us to believe it was purely coincidental.

    Perhaps you can convince yourself, but you won't convince me.
     
  9. Andouille

    Andouille Guest

    Since intellectual honesty seems to be beyond many here I'll just play the game like the rest of this nation of dumb dumbs.

    Obama is like Hitler.

    That's better.
     
  10. Andouille

    Andouille Guest

    There are hundreds of leaders in the 20th century that quickly rose to power with a combination of charisma resulting in a cult-like following, bad economics and the demographics of the working class and academics?

    I prefaced my points CLEARLY for you emotionally fragile folks that I don't equate the motives or political goals of Obama with Hitler. There is no ulterior meaning. If you choose to believe so that is your problem.
     

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