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I heard Saban mentioned Butch Davis in his press conference

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Wasn't there some sort of probation while he was there?

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I don't know much about Butch Davis but I keep hearing that he was a great recruiter. However, I did look up his records of each season he was at Miami and there seems to be a bit of a drop off when Butch was at the helm. He seemed to underachieve for the amount of talent Miami had at the time and given the fact that each of the last five coaches at Miami won a national title except for Davis. I'm not saying he wouldn't be good at LSU(if it came down to it), just bringing some interesting facts to light.

Jimmy Johnson....8-5....10-2....11-1....12-0.....11-1.....11-1

Dennis Erickson.....10-2.....12-0.....11-1.....9-3....10-2

Butch Davis.....8-3.....9-3.....5-6....9-3.....9-4.....11-1

Larry Coker....12-0....12-1.....11-2

Also note that he stayed there the longest (along with JJ) and was the only one(of the last five coaches) not to win a national title, even though he came close in 2000. Howard Schnellenberger was the coach before Jimmy J. and he even won a NC. Dennis Erickson and Larry Coker won a NC in their very first years and Butch had six years and couldn't win one.

One last note, of those four coaches I posted records of, Davis was the only one to have a losing season. In fact the only other coach to come close to a losing season was JJ at 8-5.

He may be a good coach when it boils down to it, but those numbers make one wonder if he underachieved while at Miami.
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Miami was put under sanctions when he got there, they didn't start to pull out of it until near the end of his tenure and then they won the NC the next year.

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yes, from the Erickson years. He cleaned up the mess.

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Tigerskin said:

Wasn't there some sort of probation while he was there?
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What sort of probation?

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What exact sanctions were they under?

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What exact sanctions were they under?
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I forget exactly was it was pretty serious. Erickson's tenure is what led Miami to become known as ThugU

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These players were all recruited by Davis. It is quite impressive. Number represents round drafted, notice there are over 20 1's. (I got this from another site)

QB

Ken Dorsey(7)

RB

Willis McGahee(1)
Clinton Portis(2)
Najeh Davenport(4)
Edgerrin James(1)
Nick Luchey(not drafted)

WR

Andre Johnson(1)
Santana Moss(1)
Reggie Wayne(1)

TE

Kellen Winslow(1)
Jeremy Shockey(1)
Bubba Franks(1)

Oline

McKinnie(1)
Brett Romberg(not drafted)
Joaquin Gonzalez(7)

Linebackers

DJ Williams(1)
Jonathan Vilma(1)
Dan Morgan(1)
Darrell McClove(7)
Ray Lewis(1)

DL

Vince Wilfork(1)
Jerome McDougle(1)
Andrew Williams(3)
Damione Lewis(1)
William Joseph(1)
Jamaal Green(4)

Secondary

Mike Rumph(1)
Sean Taylor(1)
Ed Reed(1)
Phillip Buchanon(1)
Duane Starks(1)

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Here is a list of players recruited by Davis that went to the NFL
QB

Ken Dorsey(7)

RB

Willis McGahee(1)
Clinton Portis(2)
Najeh Davenport(4)
Edgerrin James(1)
Nick Luchey(not drafted)

WR

Andre Johnson(1)
Santana Moss(1)
Reggie Wayne(1)

TE

Kellen Winslow(1)
Jeremy Shockey(1)
Bubba Franks(1)

Oline

McKinnie(1)
Brett Romberg(not drafted)
Joaquin Gonzalez(7)

Linebackers

DJ Williams(1)
Jonathan Vilma(1)
Dan Morgan(1)
Darrell McClove(7)
Ray Lewis(1)

DL

Vince Wilfork(1)
Jerome McDougle(1)
Andrew Williams(3)
Damione Lewis(1)
William Joseph(1)
Jamaal Green(4)

Secondary

Mike Rumph(1)
Sean Taylor(1)
Ed Reed(1)
Phillip Buchanon(1)
Duane Starks(1)

And more :

OL
Joaquin Gonzalez
Brett ROmberg

DB
Duane Starks

LB
Nate Webster

RB
James Jackson(recently released)
Nick Luchey

WR
Andre King

DL
William Joseph

TE
Bubba Franks

Tigerskin, Dec 15, 2004

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Beat ya

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Beat me to it. But I got more :wink:

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