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shane0911 · Jan 1, 2015

COTiger said: ↑

Dealing with fan criticism is part of the job description for a SEC head coach. I think next year is a make or break year for Les. Another 8 & 5 year and the heat will become intense in my opinion. Based on our QB performance I'm not overly optimistic for improvement on our W/L record.
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Damn right it will get hotter.

But remember, it's all about the right fit and how often you ask your wife and kids to move.

tirk · Jan 1, 2015

shane0911 said: ↑

Damn right it will get hotter.

But remember, it's all about the right fit and how often you ask your wife and kids to move.
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none of this matters if his rollover is in effect and his buyout is still huge. which means this bad marriage will never end. we are stuck like chuck.

shane0911 · Jan 1, 2015

tirk said: ↑

none of this matters if his rollover is in effect and his buyout is still huge. which means this bad marriage will never end. we are stuck like chuck.
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You know those times where you hear the jet and look up, but it's actually far ahead of where you heard the sound...

Bengal B · Jan 1, 2015

StaceyO said: ↑

Hey, I'm from Louisiana, cut me some slack Hoss. You obviously new what I meant.
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If we're from Louisiana, we cannot spell?[/QUOTE]

Ain't choo frum Looziana too?

Pintoracer · Jan 1, 2015

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WRONG I'm pro Miles and proudly so. That doesn't mean he is faultless and doesn't need to reflect on the state of the program and his handling of it. I wrote after the MSU & Auburn game that he seems to have become complacent in his approach and he needed to regain the fire and demand for excellence the had early on. That is obvious whether one supports him or not.
Why am I pro Miles? Several reasons:
1) he seems to be a good man and takes a real and paternal interest in his team and subordinates. I would rather have a person like him than Saban, Meyer and so many more WHATEVER THE RECORD. However I believe you can have a great record and be the man Les is. He proved it earlier.
2) he is a good recruiter of players and coaches. Pretty much all agree on this even the minions.
3) I like his basic philosophy which is the same as Saban, Harbough et al
4) He runs a clean program
5) he has been a winner
I'll give him more of a pass on some of the offensive problems. The Kragthorpe hire really caused chaos. Remember just after he was hired his illness was dianogesed? Who can fault Les for sticking with him and trying to make it work? That was a 4 year tragedy that has to be remembered and accounted for.

That being said the last couple of years has seen a regression in the program. Two years ago saying he won 80% of his games was enough but as has been pointed out he is much lower over the last 3 years and his record in the SECW is poor.
There is validity in the criticism of the QB performance and usage. There is no reason for the lack of competence at that position. It's been 2 years with Cam and Jennings has shown no improvement.
Unlike so many (both minions and pumpers) I don't pretend to know what happens in practice or in coaches meetings or minds. I just know the QB play is not good enough.
Bottom line I believe Les is a very good coach and fits LSU well. He deserves much more respect than he is given here. He also needs to change the direction of the team's performance. LSU should be playing for the SECW every year and the SEC and NC often. He needs to regain the fire and swagger he had when he said Fu*k Bama. If he does that he will be LSU's greatest coach. If he doesn't we'll be looking for the next one.
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Yeah, he's a great guy and all that. I just don't see the fire of the teams earlier in his tenure. They are talented. But, I just don't see Miles coaching them to their full potiential. My comment above was more out of frustration and should not have been made. I wish all the best for our Tigers!!!

StaceyO · Jan 1, 2015

Bengal B said: ↑

If we're from Louisiana, we cannot spell?
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Ain't choo frum Looziana too?[/QUOTE]

Absolutely...public school educated at that. When I first moved to Texas, I got tired of defending Louisiana to the Texans. I would routinely hear bullshit like, "You're from Louisiana? But you sound intelligent."

It didn't help that I moved up here around the time The Waterboy came out.

LSUTiga · Jan 1, 2015

StaceyO said: ↑

Ain't choo frum Looziana too?

Absolutely...public school educated at that. When I first moved to Texas, I got tired of defending Louisiana to the Texans. I would routinely hear bullshit like, "You're from Louisiana? But you sound intelligent."

It didn't help that I moved up here around the time The Waterboy came out.
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Did you tell them you had a 2nd degree pink belt, too? HighhhYa.

alfredeneuman · Jan 2, 2015

Winston1 said: ↑

WRONG I'm pro Miles and proudly so. That doesn't mean he is faultless and doesn't need to reflect on the state of the program and his handling of it. I wrote after the MSU & Auburn game that he seems to have become complacent in his approach and he needed to regain the fire and demand for excellence the had early on. That is obvious whether one supports him or not.
Why am I pro Miles? Several reasons:
1) he seems to be a good man and takes a real and paternal interest in his team and subordinates. I would rather have a person like him than Saban, Meyer and so many more WHATEVER THE RECORD. However I believe you can have a great record and be the man Les is. He proved it earlier.
2) he is a good recruiter of players and coaches. Pretty much all agree on this even the minions.
3) I like his basic philosophy which is the same as Saban, Harbough et al
4) He runs a clean program
5) he has been a winner
I'll give him more of a pass on some of the offensive problems. The Kragthorpe hire really caused chaos. Remember just after he was hired his illness was dianogesed? Who can fault Les for sticking with him and trying to make it work? That was a 4 year tragedy that has to be remembered and accounted for.

That being said the last couple of years has seen a regression in the program. Two years ago saying he won 80% of his games was enough but as has been pointed out he is much lower over the last 3 years and his record in the SECW is poor.
There is validity in the criticism of the QB performance and usage. There is no reason for the lack of competence at that position. It's been 2 years with Cam and Jennings has shown no improvement.
Unlike so many (both minions and pumpers) I don't pretend to know what happens in practice or in coaches meetings or minds. I just know the QB play is not good enough.
Bottom line I believe Les is a very good coach and fits LSU well. He deserves much more respect than he is given here. He also needs to change the direction of the team's performance. LSU should be playing for the SECW every year and the SEC and NC often. He needs to regain the fire and swagger he had when he said Fu*k Bama. If he does that he will be LSU's greatest coach. If he doesn't we'll be looking for the next one.
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He doesn't deserve respect, he earns it. And based on his shitty offense and QB play, he deserves every bit of criticism he's getting, regardless of his past record. The quirkiness and paternal aspect of his coaching ability is old and tiresome. That's great that his players and subordinates (err, obviously not all) love him; they should have that kind of loyalty. I'm a fan, my loyalty is to the school, not the coach, coaches or AD. Coincidentally, the only time I do understand what hell he's saying is when he's cramming his foot down his throat (fuck bama, I'd be honored to play that team again, we're looking to get him quality reps, I didn't motion to clock it, etc). I don't have to like Saban or Meyer, but I respect the hell out of their coaching ability, especially considering where they're both playing today. I'm sure he's a nice guy and all, seems like it, anyway, but Miles needs to unfuck himself or move on, man. He's hitched himself to Cam's wagon, and if this year is any indication, that wagon is going speedily downhill.

alfredeneuman · Jan 2, 2015

StaceyO said: ↑

Ain't choo frum Looziana too?
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Absolutely...public school educated at that. When I first moved to Texas, I got tired of defending Louisiana to the Texans. I would routinely hear bullshit like, "You're from Louisiana? But you sound intelligent."

It didn't help that I moved up here around the time The Waterboy came out.[/QUOTE]

Good lord, ain't that the truth! The absolute worst movie for someone who moves around a lot. Yankees are already stupid on most things Southern, and that movie never helped my cause a bit.

Bengal B · Jan 2, 2015

alfredeneuman said: ↑

Absolutely...public school educated at that. When I first moved to Texas, I got tired of defending Louisiana to the Texans. I would routinely hear bullshit like, "You're from Louisiana? But you sound intelligent."

It didn't help that I moved up here around the time The Waterboy came out.
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Good lord, ain't that the truth! The absolute worst movie for someone who moves around a lot. Yankees are already stupid on most things Southern, and that movie never helped my cause a bit.[/QUOTE]

When I have been on the north if somebody asked stupid questions I would make up stories about having to watch out for alligators on the way to school and how some of my classmates got eaten by gators. Nobody ever called bullshit