"I actually believe in redistribution"

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  1. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Nonsense. Tax expenditures involve contributions from all citizens to pay for collective expenses.

    Tax cuts involve taking income away from the nation causing deficit spending. Tax cuts for any special interest disproportionally benefit that special interest and adds to their wealth.​
     
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    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    You having an Altzheimers moment? Dude . . . your statement was "you cannot operate a business and be poor." And you are wrong, as I pointed out.
     
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    Involuntary contributions you mean. Contribute or go to jail. That is force.

    Ah, so it's not my money. I'm not really working to support myself or my family. It's the government's, and they're just lending it to me, to be revoked at its will, and given to whom it decides is entitled to the fruits of my labor.

    Like I said earlier, this is communist-level stuff. No moderate democrat believes that, when the chips are down, there is no real right to private property. It's amazing that democrats have the balls to say republicans are moving farther to the extreme right.
     
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  4. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 PureBlood

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    Owning a hot dog stand doesn't mean you are poor.

    You Showed nothing of being poor.

    Regardless you are wrong because rich people do create jobs.
     
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    LSUsupaFan Founding Member

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    But being poor does not mean you can't own a business. There are lots of poor folks running businesses. Have you ever been to a flea market? All those dirt mall dealers have re-sale businesses and most of em are poor.
     
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    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Taxes are part of citizenship. You are not forced to pay them. You can leave the country if you don't wish to be a citizen.

    The taxes you owe are not your money.

    There is no collective ownership here. Nothing remotely communist. This s just lame rhetoric.

    WTF are you talking about? What does taxation have to do with private property?

    You apparently haven't been paying much attention to current events. There is no question that the GOP has moved far to the right and become more intrenched and inflexible. They will tell you so.
     
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  7. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 PureBlood

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    Red only took part of what I said..

    "Yes Red, you cannot operate a business and be poor. Well, you can and go broke. Much like a number of government functions. But hey, Obama gave GM jobs while shitting on the rest of the auto industry."

    He is playing a technicality all while claiming poor people are the job creators and the rich are not.

    Do you see what I am doing here?
     
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    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Prove it.
     
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    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    I have no claimed the poor were job creators. I just disproved a phony point you tried to make.

    Of course. Making a smokescreen.
     
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    LSUpride123 PureBlood

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    The same way a homeless man can sell his old undies.

    If the poor can make a business, then so can rich.
     
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