How would you feel about our season if Saban was the coach?

I think we all agree that this team never amounted to what it could have been. Miles does deserve some of the blame, but there's still plenty of hope that improvement will be made in the future.

 

I hope you are right but I just have this feeling I am back in the Hallman days! I know you love this guy but please do not expect me to do the same. I can not sing praises with you for Miles.

And BTW, I am amazed at the change on this board. These kinds of comments before the SECCG would have gotten me crucified (wait, they did!) because I felt that Miles did not have control of this team.

 

I don't expect you too.

Timing was the key. To crucify our coach while we're winning is/was not very accepted. Also, it was ridiculous the way certain fans acted. It wasn't just fans discussing their dissappointments with the coaching staff, it was ruthless commentary with no goal other than to belittle our coach. With those kinds of posts going around, all of the "Miles bashers" kind of got lumped together & a large group of posters didn't want to hear it.

 

As for this season, I am happy with it. Of course,If Saban had stayed, I wouldn't have the uncertainty that comes with having a new coach so it would have been better. But, had Saban stayed, there is no telling the way the team would have played.

Personally, I don't think Les Miles is near the coach Nick Saban was/is. Therefore, I am not gonna expect him to produce the same results year in and year out for the next 5 years that Nick did in his tenure hear. It would be great if he did, but I have a feeling he isn't gonna do that.

 

I can't say that I understand this train of thought. Miles, in his first season, has won more games than Saban won 4 out of 5 years. Is it just because Saban left so much talent? Maybe. But Miles is proving to be a hell of a recruiter himself, so what makes you think the talent is going anywhere?

I actually have higher standards for Miles than I had for Saban, and expect him to do more than what Saban did.

 

It is because he left so much talent. No matter what, right or wrong, everyone was expecting this year to be better than last year. ANd, wins-wise, it was. I can't hold that against Miles, by any means. I wasn't happy with the play-calling at times, but we pulled out wins with experience and leadership.

There is many people, on other boards at least, that feel that Les Miles should live up to higher expectations than Saban and produce better results than him, yet, they don't think he is the coach Saban was/is. But, they have probably never asked themselves, "why would you expect more from Miles if you don't think he is near the coach Saban was/is."? I did and since I don't think Les Miles is near the coach Saban was/is, I don't think he will produce results as good as Saban.

Make no mistake, this is my opinion for the present. It very well may change in the future, if I see some extremely better play, at least offensively, from this team.

Do you think Les Miles can win a MNC? How about 2 SEC titles? It would be great if he did. Yeah, I know nobody predicted it from Saban early in his career, but if you want to think Miles is better or equal to Saban, he is gonna have to produce similar results.

 

Right. So, why do people think LSU will be bad once Saban's recruits leave? If all you need is talent, then Miles' recruiting should be enough to comfort them. I just don't get it...

We got lucky to win our last National Championship. During this regular season, Miles maintained the same record that Saban had during the National Championship season. I know we lost the SECCG, but so far Miles has produced similar results. I doubt that Miles is a better coach than Saban, but I think he'll be able to be even more successful here than Saban was.

 

Ohhhhhhhhh no, it's about so much more than having talent. If you think it's just about having talent, you need to think again.

Well, we may have gotten lucky to win our last MNC. We did get some breaks, but our team busted their tail when they had to and got it done. They beat the best team in the nation, according to the BCS, for a national championship. IT was all on the field for everyone to see.

While some may think we got lucky, that is one more MNC than Miles has and may ever have. As far as this year, EVERYBODY was expecting this to be our year. I don't see why you are throwing this season around to pump up Miles. Everybody, right or wrong, was expecting this year to be better than last. We weren't looking toward a rebuilding year. We were picked by several folks to win the SEC title and some even said we would be in the Rose Bowl.

If you don't think Miles is a better coach than Saban, why do you think he will be more successful than Saban? Do you have a logical reason? He very well may be. I hope he is. That would be awesome.

 

No, I don't think that. Some people think that the only reason Miles is winning is because of talent Saban left. (IMO, Miles is winning despite some of that "talent" this season.) But lots of fans think Miles will be bad in the future because Miles is winning with Saban's players right now. Even though Miles is recruiting some great athletes, I guess people feel like he won't develop them as well as Saban did. I understand the concern for that due to the lack of development we've seen this season, but nothing about Miles' past at Oklahoma St leads me to believe that the future will remain the same.

I mean we got lucky to play for the National Championship. We had a home loss to Florida, whom finished unranked. Then the next year Auburn goes undefeated & doesn't even get the chance to play for a NC. That's why I say we got lucky. (ya got that jesuit? :thumb: )

Those predictions were in large part based on a favorable schedule, which didn't quite work out as planned. The other deciding factor in those predictions was the belief that our talent would develop into what they were capable of. They haven't. Maybe it's completely Miles' fault. We'll know next season. Also, we won the SEC West & were in contention for the National Championship all the way up to the SECCG - he did meet most expectations.

Well, Miles already has a higher winning percentage than Saban... One of the greatest things Saban did for this program was build up the facilities. Now that they are here, Miles gets to take advantage of that. Saban also shed stupid beliefs about how & when we couldn't win - Miles will benefit from that as well. Basically, I think Saban cleared the path for his successor to be successful. We needed a coach that could be a GM by assembling a good staff & allowing them to do their jobs, and could recruit great athletes to our program - we didn't need another Saban.

 

Maybe so, maybe not. We have to see

Maybe we were lucky, but we won the sucker. Do you think Miles can get that lucky? Auburn got screwed and everyone knows it.

That's great. I am just saying this year was supposed to be better than last. It wasn't like we were rebuilding.

Being a GM? Does that mean he is "hands-on" or "hands-off"?

The truth will all come out about Miles. He may have similar success that Saban had, maybe he won't. We'll see.