How does everyone feel about the POTUS

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  1. gyver

    gyver Rely on yourself not on others.

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    gyver Rely on yourself not on others.

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    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Because the news is responsible in its reporting and this blog you found is trying to lie with numbers. Here are the real numbers of TOTAL KIA under Bush and Obama.

    Bush = 4,861
    Obama = 1,581

    How many deaths in Iraq, Barrack Obama compared to Bush? 257 During Obama. 4231 During Bush. Of course the blogger ignored these.

    Do you believe everything you read without checking on it?
     
  4. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    Where is the proof that anyone has joined a foreign army or taken up arms against the United States?
     
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    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    I have lectured you at length about how wrong you are on our support of the Egyptian military, but you apparently never even bother to read them. Listen up for once.

    Those jets and tanks are not going to the Muslim Brotherhood, they are going to the Egyptian military which is the true power in Egypt. THEY are the ones that depose Mubarak and took power. THEY are the ones that will do the same to the Muslim Brotherhood when the time comes. Have you paid any attention at all to the news from Egypt? There is rioting in the streets against the Muslim Brotherhood for overstepping its authority. The political situation is far from settled. The Brotherhoods grasp on authority is weak.

    Meanwhile the Egyptian army remains powerful and we command huge influence upon them because they are dependent on us for equipment and supplies for their US equipment. Without us they cannot maintain any kind of parity with Israel. That parity has kept the peace for 40 years. We supply both sides and control everything.

    Only short-sighted fools would abandon Egypt because they don't like the current politics. Egypt is important because of the Canal and because it is the biggest country in the Arab world. Never forget who wields actual power in Egypt and who holds their strings.
     
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    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    There is a big hole in the ground in New York City and our National Military Headquarters was also attacked in our Capitol city. That's war. Al Qaeda started this war and continues to pursue it from bases in Pakistan and Yemen with more bombings. Americans who join Al Qadea overseas and make war on us give up their citizenship, the Constitution says so. The American in question was responsible for the recent bombs sent on American flights from the shoe bomber to the toner-bombs. US intelligence had the evidence on him and they took military action.

    What is so hard to understand about that?
     
  7. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    I've shot down over half of this list already. It is complete bullshit. Just another thing you found on the internet and beleieve automatically. You NEVER bother to check on facts and it kills your credibility.

    Just take #4 for instance . . . Obama and SecState Clinton’s efforts to bring the US under the UN’s Small Arms Treaty are direct violations of the Second Amendment of the US Constitution.

    What nonsense! The UN small arms treaty only addresses the illegal international trafficking of guns. It doesn't do one damn thing about guns within the United States. NOT ONE DAMN THING! Republicans continue to be the party of Stupid.
     
  8. gyver

    gyver Rely on yourself not on others.

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    In Iraq we faced a standing army. A very seasoned army at that. What happened in Afghanistan? What changes were made to operational procedures under Obama that cost so many more American casualties ?
     
  9. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    Because US and intelligence don't belong in the same sentence. The same intelligence that gave us yellow cake and sadaam with WMD. So if I'm an American and move Pakistan because my family was killed in a drone strike and start to speak out against the United States government for murdering my family I have nothing to worry about? Who's to stop these fuckers from trying to kill Julian Assange next, or anyone who speaks out against the American war machine.
     
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    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    You know, Bill Maher said it perfectly last night, the US can push a button and kill anyone on the planet but we can't deliver mail on Saturday. This country's priorities are fucked up.
     
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