House poised to apologize for slavery, Jim Crow

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  1. G_MAN113

    G_MAN113 Founding Member

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    Poor analogy. You probably knew your grandfather...and if you didn't it's highly likely your parents did. That's a very personal loss that hits close to home. The people on the receiving end of this apology don't know anybody who was a slave. The "peculiar institution" was abolished 143 years ago.
     
  2. LSUMASTERMIND

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    You dont have to know a slave personally, see this is what you dont get. they are apologizing for slavery and Jim Crow. Yes I know family members (grandfather, dad, uncles) personally, who suffered under Jim Crow, who where harrassed, beat, humiliated because of these laws. This apology was more than just slavery.

    When your grandfather looks at you and says my mother or grandmother was a slave, you probably would feel something in your soul from that statement. you cant diminish a persons feelings on a issue if you have never felt them.
     
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  3. lsu-i-like

    lsu-i-like Playoff advocate

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    I think its pretty similar.

    In addition to what Mastermind said, there are still repercussions felt in our society due to slavery and the ensuing racist sentiment. There are whole parts of Baton Rouge I doubt any of us are proud of that testify to that. That's not to say everyone in those parts of town is a failure or that they shouldn't have some community pride. I don't deny that people are responsible for themselves, but I don't think we are far enough removed from the civil rights movement a generation or two back to say it doesn't effect us now.
     
  4. G_MAN113

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    The Jim Crow apology I get. There are still people alive who suffered from the effects of these laws, and they are entitled to an apology of some sort for the things they had to endure.

    But the apology for slavery...I'm sorry, we're just going to have to agree to disagree on that one, because I fail to see how it affects anyone alive today.
    I could just as easily demand an apology from the British government for driving my ancestors out of Nova Scotia...what good would it do me?
     
  5. red55

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    Queen Elizabeth offered regrets on December 11, 2003 for the brutal treatment inflicted by the crown on the French-speaking ancestors of Louisiana's Cajun people. Go demand your reparations, Pierre!

    Then again, aren't you better off for not being a Canadian today. :grin:

    For that matter, isn't MASTERMIND better off for not being an African today? Jim Crow was bad enough, but Hutu's and Tootsies swinging machetes at your head ain't a walk in the park, either! For all its horrors, slavery did have a silver lining. The slaves paid far heavier dues than most of our ancestors did to get to America. But descendants of US slaves are the most educated, advanced, and wealthy black people on the planet.
     
  6. LSUMASTERMIND

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    Good point, so there isnt anything wrong with me honoring that sacrifice.
     
  7. red55

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    Hell no, you ought to be proud of those people. I've never really understood why black folks feel so much shame for slavery. It wasn't their fault that it happened, they dealt with it stoically, and once ended, things turned out pretty well for their progeny. The sacrifice of the slaves bought black people a place in the New World. If slavery had never happened, North America would be as lily-white as Europe. Think about it for a minute.

    My Grandma always said, "There is a reason for everything that God does".

    Of course, my college roommate always said, "Wow! Righteous karma, man." :grin:
     
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    Another good point.
     
  9. LSUFAN910

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    :angry:This is the dumbest thing that I think our politicians could do right now. Slavery is over. It has been over for a long time. The way I look at it, it is in the past. So let it stay in the past. I don't know why the african american community can not look to the future and not the past. The past will be the past. Nothing will ever change it. Slavery definitely was a dark time in American History but, please just move on and stop this slavery talk. I am so tired of every time something negative happens to the African American community, slavery and racism has to be brought up. You know, there is racism that goes on every day. There are black people out there that hate white people and there are white people out there that hate black people. Nothing will ever change. I am sick and tired of every time a crime is commited against an african american, that we have the hear claim disrimination or racism out of there mouths. You don't hear other immigrants claiming that crap all the time. :angryfire. I would not apologize for something that occured over 100 years ago. LEAVE THE PAST IN THE PAST !!!
     

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