News Hospital released Ebola patient by mistake

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  1. Bengal B

    Bengal B Founding Member

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    Mexican hazmat suits? Were they wearing sombreros too?
     
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    I listened to the interview with Louise. I don't know how long she's been in the US but she's from West Africa. She said her boyfriend did not tell her he had been exposed to Ebola in Liberia. She said that food had not been delivered as claimed and that while she wasn't using the bed, the sheets were still on. Some bagged items were still in the apartment and she was waiting for the CDC to come tell her how to dispose of it. She said she signed a form acknowledging that if they leave the apartment they could be arrested and charged with a crime. Her daughter is the one who called 911. She had gone to fix the patient some tea and he was shaking and very sick. Louise doesn't know if her daughter is quarantined but her 3 granddaughters were removed from school. She poured clorox on the bed and still plans to keep and use the bed.

    This thing is not going like clockwork and officials are not telling the truth or enforcing protocol.
     
  3. gyver

    gyver Rely on yourself not on others.

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    http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/transmission/index.html?mobile=nocontent

    How do you get the Ebola virus?

    Direct contact with:

    1. 1 Body fluids of a person who is sick with or has died from Ebola. (blood, vomit, pee, poop, sweat, semen, spit, other fluids)

    2. 2 Objects contaminated with the virus (needles, medical equipment)

    3. 3 Infected animals (by contact with blood or fluids or infected meat)
     
  4. uscvball

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    gumborue, this is the latest this morning.

    "state and local authorities confirmed Thursday that a week after a Liberian man fell ill with Ebola in Dallas, and four days after he was placed in isolation at a hospital here, the apartment where he was staying with four other people had not been sanitized and the sheets and dirty towels he used while sick remained in the home. County officials visited the apartment without protection Wednesday night.

    The officials said it had been difficult to find a contractor willing to enter the apartment to clean it and remove bedding and clothes, which they said had been bagged in plastic. They said they now had hired a firm that would do the work soon. The Texas health commissioner, Dr. David Lakey, told reporters during an afternoon news conference that officials had encountered “a little bit of hesitancy” in seeking a firm to clean the apartment."

    This is the test of our supposed airtight processes in dealing with ebola. So far, a fail.
     
  5. uscvball

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    "The international air travel system has also proved to have porous screening procedures that rely heavily on the honesty of travelers and the diligence of airport workers. The chairman of the Liberian national airport authority, Binyah Kesselly, said Thursday that Mr. Duncan had been deceptive about his exposure to the virus when he flew out of Roberts International Airport in Monrovia on Sept. 19.

    Mr. Kesselly said that Mr. Duncan, who was screened before boarding and did not have a fever, answered “no” to a question about whether he had had contact with any person who might have been stricken with Ebola in the past 21 days. "

    This would be funny if it wasn't so serious. Infected people in West African countries don't always say they have ebola, even with obvious symptoms. Now we are going to rely on the "honesty" of travelers? I suppose if an isis militant with ebola and an American passport came home, we'd rely on his honesty too.
     
  6. Bengal B

    Bengal B Founding Member

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    Now it turns out that ibuprofen masks the symptoms of ebola long enough to fool the airport screeners.

    NEW YORK (Reuters) - People who contract Ebola in West Africa can get through airport screenings and onto a plane with a lie and a lot of ibuprofen, according to healthcare experts who believe more must be done to identify infected travelers.

    At the very least, they said, travelers arriving from Ebola-stricken countries should be screened for fever, which is currently done on departure from Liberia, Guinea and Sierra Leone. But such safeguards are not foolproof.

    "The fever-screening instruments run low and aren't that accurate," said infection control specialist Sean Kaufman, president of Behavioral-Based Improvement Solutions, a biosafety company based in Atlanta.

    "And people can take ibuprofen to reduce their fever enough to pass screening, and why wouldn't they? If it will get them on a plane so they can come to the United States and get effective treatment after they're exposed to Ebola, wouldn't you do that to save your life?"

    On Thursday, Liberia said the first Ebola patient to be diagnosed in the United States had lied on a questionnaire at the Monrovia airport about his exposure to an Ebola patient. He flew to Brussels and then Dulles airport outside Washington, D.C., before landing in Dallas on Sept. 20.

    The traveler, Thomas Eric Duncan, had no symptoms when he left Liberia, and fever scans there had shown a normal body temperature of 97.3 degrees Fahrenheit, U.S. health officials said. He therefore could not have been identified through examination as carrying the Ebola virus.

    His arrival and hospitalization in Dallas have underscored how much U.S. authorities are relying on their counterparts in West African countries to screen passengers and contain the worst Ebola outbreak on record.

    Part of the screening burden rests on connecting airports.

    For example, Kaufman flew from Monrovia to Casablanca to London to Atlanta. He was fever-screened in Monrovia and Casablanca, but not London's Heathrow, he said, and not when he arrived in Atlanta.

    "At Heathrow, there were no questions about where I had come from," he said. "I offered the information to the official in Atlanta, and he said, 'Thank you. Be safe.'"

    In August, experts from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) began teaching airport workers in Monrovia and other cities in the Ebola zone to conduct screenings, CDC medical worker Tai Chen said in an interview.

    Ebola cases and deaths have been reported in Guinea, Liberia, Sierra Leone, Nigeria and Senegal. The World Health Organization has put the death toll at 3,338 out of 7,178 cases since March.

    The CDC also worked with Liberian authorities to develop the questionnaire that was completed by Duncan: before travelers enter Roberts International Airport in Monrovia they are asked if they have had contact with anyone showing symptoms of Ebola.

    There are at least two other screening points before a passenger is allowed to board a plane, with trained airport personnel asking about exposure to Ebola in the previous 21 days and any symptoms including fever, severe headache, bleeding, vomiting, diarrhea, and abdominal pain.

    This process relies on an honor system, Chen said.

    Officials at the CDC and the Department of Homeland Security would not say if they are considering using hand-held fever detectors on passengers arriving at U.S. airports. But Homeland Security spokeswoman Marsha Catron said the agency "will not hesitate to execute additional safety measures should it become necessary."

    CDC Director Dr. Thomas Frieden cautioned on Thursday that a more restrictive approach to travel could make the Ebola outbreak harder to contain.

    "The approach of isolating a country is going to make it harder to get help into that country," he said.

    FEVER DETECTION

    Virologist Heinz Feldmann of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases has studied Ebola for years and helped develop an experimental Ebola vaccine. He told Science magazine in September that airport screeners in Monrovia, where he spent three weeks, "Don't really know how to use the devices."

    He said he saw screeners record temperatures of 32 degrees C (90 F), which is so low it "is impossible for a living person."

    Feldmann said in an email that according to his colleagues who have returned from Liberia in the last few days procedures for taking temperatures and doing clinical checks have improved.

    Since August, major U.S. airports that receive international flights have displayed signs alerting passengers to the presence of Ebola in West Africa and telling them to be on the look out for symptoms, said Customs and Border Protection (CBP) spokeswoman Jennifer Evanitsky.

    On Wednesday, customs personnel began distributing information prepared by the CDC describing Ebola symptoms and noting, "You were given this card because you arrived to the United States from a country with Ebola." It tells travelers that if they were exposed to Ebola overseas, "call your doctor even if you do not have symptoms."
     
  7. LSUMASTERMIND

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    shit cancel my flight to Baton Rouge in november.
     
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  8. GregLSU

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    Airplanes are tiny little germ capsules anyway... I hate flying. Someone with the flu in coach sneezes and a few in 1st class will get it.
     
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  9. uscvball

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    He gone.
     
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