News Hospital released Ebola patient by mistake

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  1. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    A good assessment I found.

    Coronaviruses that cause colds and influenza viruses are so virulent because they attack cells of the lungs. More specifically, they inhabit the upper portion of the lungs. This makes them exceptionally efficient at spreading from human to human via coughs and sneezes. While some can certainly spread to the bodies other organs, they generally cause their damage in the lungs.

    Ebola, on the other hand, spreads principally via exchange of bodily fluids. Blood borne, it spreads quickly through the body's organs causing its grisly symptoms. It is an efficient killer but not efficient in its spread throughout a population.

    The other factor that actually hinders the spread of Ebola is its incubation period. While it has a quite lengthy incubation period, up to 25 days, its victims are not contagious during that time. Compare this to influenza which has an incubation period of just 2-7 days. Short, yes, but victims are very contagious while feeling completely fine.

    Can Ebola mutate to a more virulent species? Absolutely. In fact, the strain that's causing so much panic in West Africa has never been seen before. As long ago as December of 2013, the WHO and CDC knew it was a new strain.
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    uscvball Founding Member

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    I just read that they are saying despite the protective gear, there was a breach of protocol. We need to know what it was. No way to overcome the initial lack of communication that resulted in patient zero being sent home the first time.
     
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  3. mancha

    mancha Alabama morghulis

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    I'll back you up on the quality of care at Presby. I have spent too many of my nights sleeping in a trundle bed. At least I can say that the GI staff is top notch as well.
     
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  4. islstl

    islstl Playoff committee is a group of great football men Staff Member

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    This has been a real clusterfuck of a situation.
     
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  5. StaceyO

    StaceyO Football Turns Me On

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    That's an interesting point. They've talked to the nurse, and she cannot identify a breach in protocol. I think it's one more way public officials are trying not to panic the public--while going door-to-door in her neighborhood warning residents and sending in hazmat people to disinfect her apartment and the yard around it, which is roped off with police tape, so that it looks like a murder scene.
     
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    mancha Alabama morghulis

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    They won't find an obvious breech in protocol. It isn't like she took off her gloves and gave him a hand job. Instead of saying that it is the nurses fault she got sick, what the CDC ass clown should say is "We need to do a better job of training the personnel who are caring for the patients. Even the slightest, unaware, deviation can expose you to a microscopic amount of the virus and you can get infected."

    Yeah, I want that job with that kind of boss.
     
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    Bengal B Founding Member

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    A nurse I know once told me that nurses and other medical personnel frequently prick themselves with used syringes by accident. If it was me I think I'd try to be more careful and constantly aware of the danger but I suppose if you get into a daily routine its easy to make deadly mistakes. I've known more then one skilled carpenter who has cut off fingers with a skill saw
     
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  8. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    A friend of mine who used to do asbestos abatement in hazmat suits said that one of the procedures people often do wrong is fail to properly decontaminate the suit before removing it or putting it on in an area already contaminated by people leaving the contaminated zone. Suiting up-areas and decontamination areas have to be strictly separated.
     
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  9. mancha

    mancha Alabama morghulis

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    And we get no help from Louisiana.

    http://www.wwltv.com/story/news/health/2014/10/12/ebola-personal-waste/17173221/

    BATON ROUGE, La. - State Attorney General Buddy Caldwell is seeking a temporary restraining order to block the disposal of incinerated waste from the Dallas Ebola victim's personal items and belongings at a Louisiana landfill.


    It has been reported that six truckloads of potential Ebola contaminated material collected from the apartment where the Dallas Ebola victim became ill were brought to Port Arthur, Texas on Friday to be processed at the Veolia Environmental Services incinerator. From there the incinerated material is slated to be transported to a hazardous waste landfill in Louisiana for final disposal.
     
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  10. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Well, I don't think we should take waste from any other state, period. Let them put it in their own landfills.

    But Ebola can't survive long outside of the body and it damn sure can't survive incineration.
     
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