Hillary's E-Mail (Breaking News: Smoking Gun Officially Announced)

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  1. shane0911

    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village

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    I think they will
    They can make something up for all I care but I'd think it has to do with being careless with sensitive information or maybe not providing security for those guys that were begging for it for months in Benghazi.
     
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    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    Steeerike three!
     
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    Bengal B Founding Member

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    Here's the thing: Anybody, even the most honest person can end up being falsely accused of some kind of wrongdoing sometimes in their life. Maybe even twice it they have vindictive enemies. But nobody who has been embroiled in scandals for her entire career is free from guilt for something. Blame it on witchhunts if you want. I won't argue that she is a witch. Blame it on right wing conspiracies. Blame it on her being an unlikable cunt if you wish.

    But if she and Bill were innocent of any wrongdoing and lawbreaking ever they wouldn't have been accused of it over and over from the time when Bill was governor of Arkansas. Just too much smell to not be a skunk.
     
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    Total horseshit. Here is the thing. Anyone who has survived this much vindictive political scrutiny for this long and has not been charged with a single crime is likely not guilty of anything. And you should be looking askance at the hapless accusers.

    You're innocent until proven guilty in this country. To suggest anything else is fundamental ignorance of how the law works and naivety of the highest order. Political accusation based on no evidence and intended to smear a candidate with innuendo is called mudslinging.

    The stench is coming from the overt political witch hunts. Come back when just one of them turns up any criminal activity. You got nuthin'.
     
  5. Bengal B

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    I know how the law works. I also know that some successful criminals are very good at not getting caught. Most end up paying for their crimes eventually. Edwin Edwards was continually accused of wrongdoing but managed to stay ahead of the law for years. I was never naive enough to believe that he hadn't done many of the things he was accused of. And I was never naive enough to believe it was a vendetta by the Republicans.
     
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    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village

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    With all due respect @Winston1 , and I agree, they won't ask her the tough questions, the ones that should be asked, and the ones that would help to keep her from her goal. The problem with that is dubya made an even bigger gaff with the way he handled the Iraq invasion. Eerily similar in the fact that there was no post Husien plan. I mean I guess there was, it was just as far away from a good one as could be. I guess hind sight is 20/20 and im by no means a geo political expert but even I could tell, on the ground, real time that it would never work.

    That said, I won't ever take up for hrc and I hope Gowdy rides her ass like a rented mule. She is responsible for those lives and she knows it and the fact that she sleeps well at night and continues to act the way she does just makes me hate her more.
     
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    Bengal B Founding Member

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    At least in the case of Iraq and maybe Afghanistan there probably was a post war plan. Kick their ass, remove the brutal dictator and the people will embrace freedom and democracy. That's what we did in WWII. Problem is that those savages don't understand or even want a democratic government. Unlike here and western Europe there is no sense of a national identity. Their loyalties are first to whatever clan they belong to and second to their fucked up religion. Or maybe the other way around.

    Obama just announced that we would keep troops in Afghanistan even after he is out of office. To what end? Didn't anybody learn a lesson first from the Russians experience and now from our own. When and if we ever leave it won't be long until they revert back to their 8th century ways.

    God help us all if the would be bitch of the west wing somehow gets elected.
     
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    Completely different. I truly believe that Iraq had a chance but the plan was so unbelievably flawed. Starting and ending with firing the entire Iraqi army right out of the gate. It was all down hill from there.

    Afghanistan was a completely different set of circumstances all together
     
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    Agree with you on this Shane. The post invasion plan and efforts in Iraq were worse than flawed and ruined whatever chances we had. In addition to firing the Iraqi army, leaving the many ammo dumps unguarded and most of all depending on Chalabi for guidance on post war Iraq we really took every wrong step possible.
    I wish we had left Afghanistan as soon as we kicked the Taliban out. It is a tar pit and every power that has tried to hold it has failed.
    That being said there is no reason for not going after HRC and BO for not learning a lesson and screwing up as badly She has no excuse other than that she is incompetent.
     
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