Hillary's E-Mail (Breaking News: Smoking Gun Officially Announced)

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  1. LaSalleAve

    LaSalleAve when in doubt, mumble

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    Their reasoning was that he has been the only candidate thus far who has talked about the real issues, and has said what he would do. No one else has. They tiptoe around issues, and have no plan other than to line the pockets of their funders.

    Progressive is a beacon of light, conservative = scary..
     
  2. red55

    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    I do not know this. She ever claimed to be homeless and bankrupt without prospects of getting out. But they were financially in the red at the time.

    Clinton’s 2000 Senate financial disclosure form provides a rough view of the balance between the couple’s assets and liabilities. These forms only show amounts in broad ranges -- from $15,001 to $50,000, from $50,001 to $100,000 and so forth -- but under any set of assumptions, the Clintons were in the red, a problem driven by Bill Clinton’s enormous legal bills.

    Their highest possible assets totaled about $1.8 million, while their lowest possible debts were nearly $2.3 million. The most optimistic scenario left them in a hole of about $500,000.

    I realize that they had a $3 million dollar property, but if you want to talk real estate you must consider that the property was mortgaged. Their equity was only $850,000 so considering the real estate puts them $2 million or so deeper in debt.

    Well, we shall disagree. And you must know nothing of Bobby Jindal, a shameless liar.
     
  3. Bengal B

    Bengal B Founding Member

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    I think Hillary basically doesn't like people unless they have some use for her. Say what you want about Bubba but I think he did actually care about people. When they were in the White House Bill would greet even the low level employees like the cooks, gardeners and housekeepers by name and ask about their families and would know when some member of their families were sick and would express his sympathy. On the other hand the First Bitch treated them all like dirt under her designer shoes. Bill was well liked by the White House staff while Hillary was hated.
     
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    What she said was that she and Bill were "dead broke". Sorry, but for most Americans, dead broke means you either can't or struggle to put a roof over your head, pay for groceries, and basic bills are months in arrears. Being in the red on paper means jack diddly.

    So what average American do you know who can obtain a mortgage of that amount if you are "dead broke"? That's the point. They were the Clintons, not average American couple who really ARE dead broke.

    That debt equation was from 2000. "As the Clinton presidency ended, the couple bought a $2.85 million home in Washington and a $1.7 million spread in Chappaqua. And Hillary landed an $8 million advance for her book, “Living History.”

    By 2004, they had paid their legal bills, and by 2009, when Hillary Clinton was preparing to become secretary of state, the couple’s wealth was between $10 million and $50 million"

    So in 4 years they went from $2M in debt to wealth of somewhere between $10 and $50M? Hillarity ensues. They NEVER went without. Americans who are "dead broke" often go without or have been without at some point in their adult lives. Don't forget that Chelsea had top notch expensive private education as well. Does the average American do that when they are dead broke?

    Is he running for President? I was focusing more on the upcoming slate of idiots and really don't know if he's contending or not. I know enough to know I wouldn't vote for him. Were they to run I'd never vote for Boehner, McConnell, Cruz, Pelosi, Reid, Perry, Christie, Paul, and the list goes on. And still Hillary tops the cake for me.
     
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    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    It means that she had more debts than assets for a period of time. The math is easy. I've already said that dishonesty is a standard tool in the bag of any politician. Of course they didn't stay broke for very long. Both have been successful at everything they have done. She was spinning like politicians do, . . . but she wasn't lying.

    During the mortgage bubble? Anybody could get a load on a house they could not afford! That was what precipitated the financial crash. Hell, I was looking for a small 100K house in a nice neighborhood in the late 90's. But the banks were all telling me that they would gladly approve me for a big $750,000 mini-mansion. A lot of folks bit that shiny lure and were hooked.

    He announces next week. He is a shameless liar.
     
  6. shane0911

    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village

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    Talk about biting shiny lures, wow, you will go to any length to protect that bitch. She was flat out lying her ass off in an attempt to connect with the common man and you know it. There is no and I mean absolutely NO other reason for her to EVER admit such a thing, EVER, especially knowing her level of uppityness and how she loathes anything common. This is downright funny that you are defending her.

    What a dummy.
    Not to that tune amigo and you know it. You are making that up.
     
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    red55 curmudgeon Staff Member

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    How dumb is it to try to tell me what I know?

    The math is simple. debts > assets=broke. And you pay no attention at all to the context of her remarks. Dianne Sawyer was pressing her about the large speaking fees on the speech circuit they both started earning after Bill left office. So she explained that they came out of the White house underwater financially, had a daughter to educate and large legal bills, (all true) so they had to get busy earning some money. Damn good reasons and honest ones.

    I know you don't like her because she is an "uppity bitch" who "loathes anything common", but you are still wrong and those are not relevant facts, but political spin. Moron.

    Prove it.
     
  8. LSUpride123

    LSUpride123 PureBlood

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    Yea ok. Lets just ignore that an inner city family who is broke can relate to the Clintons broken'ness. Yea, I mean, I've never had millions in assets of homes and had to pay for Ivy league schools for my kids, married to the fucking president, had people drive me and around.

    I bet she started packing a lunch to work too!

    ANYONE who makes that claim is an idiot. Probably doesn't believe in Climate Change either. :/
     
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    shane0911 Helping lost idiots find their village

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    Doesn't seem like any here are buying that load of crap amigo, well except you ;)
     
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    Bengal B Founding Member

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    Word is she was buying her designer lesbian style pantsuits at the thrift store
     
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